snq
Experienced Member
I recently added 2 more IBM machines to my collection, namely a 5160 and a 5170. Each came with a color monitor. I suspect the 5160 has had a little electricity accident as the power supply is dead and one of the monitors won't power on either. My father will try to repair the monitor but for now I'll have to do with one.
Anyway both machines were mostly disassembled and I'm trying to get them up and running again. Not the easiest task, it's been almost 20 years since I last used any of these and back then I just used them, never had to tinker with them. I got a whole load of parts with them and I hope it's gonna be enough to get them both back to working condition.
I started out with the 5170, as it actually powered up after putting some bits and pieces in it. At first I got nothing but 601 and 162 errors and it would only boot to Basic. Amongst the parts were 4 5.25'' drives as well as a 3.5'' one, all different, and I had no idea which one was what or what the system was configured for. On top of that there were also different controllers amongst the parts and I did not know which one had last been used. Thanks to a tool I found on the forums I was finally able to configure the system from basic, and boot from the 5.25'' drive. So now the machine finally was somewhat usable.
I wanted to add the 3.5'' FDD to it to hopefully make it a bit easier to transfer files. The most I've gotten it to do was give me a partial dir listing after which the machine hung. Other than that it makes the right sound when booting etc. It's configured as a 720k drive because that's the only type of 3.5'' available in the configuration program.
I have no idea what kind of drive it is though. It may very well be a 1.44M, I just don't know. It's a TEAC FD-35HFN-22-U, part number 19307240-22. I have not been able to find any info about it. The same model with 33-U instead of 22-U seems to be a 1.44 but that doesn't tell me much.
Does anyone happen to know what kind of drive this is?
Next, harddrives. I got 5 HDDs with this stuff. 4 of them full height, and one of them half height. They are all Seagate drives. The half height one is an ST225, next we have 2 ST4038s, an ST4026 and an ST412. The 412 was in the XT which I guess is where it belongs.
Now for the problem.. I haven't been able to get any of the other ones working in the AT. After connecting them and selecting the type in the configuration, the system will hang for a while, give me a 1780 error, and then after pressing F1 boot from floppy.
I'm not sure what this 1780 error means. Something is obviously not right, but I don't know if this means the drive is toast or if it may be usable.
"1780 Time out for hard drive 0 at IPL -- No IPL Capability - Try formatting".
I first gave fdisk a try, it gave me an error that said something about not being able to read the fixed disk, or something. I had a floppy with CheckIt, and did a disk check, which gave me a whole bunch of "Too Damaged to Report.". So I figure a low level format is the next step. There was one floppy labeled low level format, but it was unreadable.....
So this is pretty much where I'm stuck. I can't transfer any files onto a 5.25'' drive because I don't have any other systems that have a 5.25'' drive (I ordered a cable though so hopefully I'll soon have a 5.25 in my main system, I apparently threw out all of these cables years ago). And I can't use 3.5'' disks because the AT won't read them.
What I have to work with is IBM DOS 3.30 (with debug.exe) and there's some floppies labeled MS-DOS 3.something as well.
The HDD is the most important as far as I'm concerned, but I wouldn't mind having a working 3.5'' drive either.
So, can anyone tell me what the next step in my adventure would be?
(This turned out to be quite a bit more text than I originally planned, I hope anyone made it through all of it, to make up for it I'll add some pictures )
Anyway both machines were mostly disassembled and I'm trying to get them up and running again. Not the easiest task, it's been almost 20 years since I last used any of these and back then I just used them, never had to tinker with them. I got a whole load of parts with them and I hope it's gonna be enough to get them both back to working condition.
I started out with the 5170, as it actually powered up after putting some bits and pieces in it. At first I got nothing but 601 and 162 errors and it would only boot to Basic. Amongst the parts were 4 5.25'' drives as well as a 3.5'' one, all different, and I had no idea which one was what or what the system was configured for. On top of that there were also different controllers amongst the parts and I did not know which one had last been used. Thanks to a tool I found on the forums I was finally able to configure the system from basic, and boot from the 5.25'' drive. So now the machine finally was somewhat usable.
I wanted to add the 3.5'' FDD to it to hopefully make it a bit easier to transfer files. The most I've gotten it to do was give me a partial dir listing after which the machine hung. Other than that it makes the right sound when booting etc. It's configured as a 720k drive because that's the only type of 3.5'' available in the configuration program.
I have no idea what kind of drive it is though. It may very well be a 1.44M, I just don't know. It's a TEAC FD-35HFN-22-U, part number 19307240-22. I have not been able to find any info about it. The same model with 33-U instead of 22-U seems to be a 1.44 but that doesn't tell me much.
Does anyone happen to know what kind of drive this is?
Next, harddrives. I got 5 HDDs with this stuff. 4 of them full height, and one of them half height. They are all Seagate drives. The half height one is an ST225, next we have 2 ST4038s, an ST4026 and an ST412. The 412 was in the XT which I guess is where it belongs.
Now for the problem.. I haven't been able to get any of the other ones working in the AT. After connecting them and selecting the type in the configuration, the system will hang for a while, give me a 1780 error, and then after pressing F1 boot from floppy.
I'm not sure what this 1780 error means. Something is obviously not right, but I don't know if this means the drive is toast or if it may be usable.
"1780 Time out for hard drive 0 at IPL -- No IPL Capability - Try formatting".
I first gave fdisk a try, it gave me an error that said something about not being able to read the fixed disk, or something. I had a floppy with CheckIt, and did a disk check, which gave me a whole bunch of "Too Damaged to Report.". So I figure a low level format is the next step. There was one floppy labeled low level format, but it was unreadable.....
So this is pretty much where I'm stuck. I can't transfer any files onto a 5.25'' drive because I don't have any other systems that have a 5.25'' drive (I ordered a cable though so hopefully I'll soon have a 5.25 in my main system, I apparently threw out all of these cables years ago). And I can't use 3.5'' disks because the AT won't read them.
What I have to work with is IBM DOS 3.30 (with debug.exe) and there's some floppies labeled MS-DOS 3.something as well.
The HDD is the most important as far as I'm concerned, but I wouldn't mind having a working 3.5'' drive either.
So, can anyone tell me what the next step in my adventure would be?
(This turned out to be quite a bit more text than I originally planned, I hope anyone made it through all of it, to make up for it I'll add some pictures )