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Apple II Europlus - Ram issue white blocks instead of spaces

trickydee

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Hi All,

I have just started to repair a Europlus which has a strange issue. The machine will boot to the applesoft “Apple ][“ ] prompt, and will even allow a small basic program or a call -151 to run. After a small amount of time white block start to appear on the screen in the place of spaces or empty space.
If I just hold down the enter key the spaces will start to appear, becoming more frequent with each new line.

Eventually the machine will get in a state where any basic program in memory will become corrupted. If i reset the machine or quickly power off/on - the artifacts occur straight away.
If I physically remove the PSU connetor and leave the machine for 30 seconds it will boot as normal and the fault will reoccur as above.

I’m pretty sure this is a RAM related issue as I also have bitfixer-romulator which I can use to provide a RAM replacement with “write through” memory for the video, with this enabled the video still corrupts but my basic programs do not and the machine is stable but shows the video artifacts.

I originally swapped chips with another Europlus, so i’m reasonably confident that most chips are good and I have also checked out all the resistors on the board (in place) and checked the smalls caps for shorts (although only in place).
Visually the board looks ok but does have some marks on the top layer traces (the bottom layer is fine) - an end to end test of a few traces shows no issue though. The fact that the machine initially boots ok but then corrupts after a period of time makes me think it’s not the traces.

One other difference between the faulty board and my other europlus is the board version, with the faulty board having socketed 555’s and 2 x 8T28’s rather than an 8304.
Does anyone know if the 555 or 8T28’s could cause these issues as I dont have a replacement for them?

Any help appreciated.

Regards

R
 
Hi,

There are two 555 in the Apple II : at A13 for power up reset, at B3 for flashing characters. Either way, both can't be the culprit for the problem you're experiencing.
8T28 are used to interface the data bus with the CPU. They can of course interfere with the bus data, messing up the data. But to me, it seems the problem comes from ICs that failed as they heating up. You can try to use a freeze spray.
If you have enough time to start a diagnostic program like this one, launch a RAM test over and over report the results back here.

BTW, photos or videos will help.

Regards,

Apple II forever
 
Hi @trash_44fr
Many thanks for the reply. You have a good point with regard to the overheating components. I had noticed that the RAM (first row), ROM and associated IC’s seem to be warmer than on my other II’s. I was begining to think that it could be due to a failed Clock Crystal.
I’ve never heard of freeze spray so I’ll maybe give that a try.
I’ll also create some videos / photos over the weekend.

Thanks again.

R
 
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