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durgadas311
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I have a set of PeachTree accounting software for CP/M-80, written in BASIC. I'm not sure about any manuals for them, though. This includes General Ledger, PayRoll, Accounts Payable and Receivable. I've placed a ZIP of all 4 packages plus some "data" disk (demo/startup, not someone's real accounting data) at http://sebhc.durgadas.com/peachtree.zip
If I find manuals someplace, I'll post that. I forget how much help is built-in.
If I find manuals someplace, I'll post that. I forget how much help is built-in.
cj7hawk
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The AMUST executive I have was quite interesting as it came with a full suite of business software including Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivable and Project Costing software. The Microbee guys have a full set of their manuals also, on the Microbee forum.
It must have been reasonable because they were still revising the hardware and selling the computers as late as 1988!
It was a CP/M 2.2 machine, but I don't know how well the software would work on other platforms.
It must have been reasonable because they were still revising the hardware and selling the computers as late as 1988!
It was a CP/M 2.2 machine, but I don't know how well the software would work on other platforms.
furball1985
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There are tons of archives full of cp/m business software just a google search away.
Are you specifically looking for software written in basic? Are you just looking for various source code of business software?
Are you specifically looking for software written in basic? Are you just looking for various source code of business software?
furball1985
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here is the cp/m money program Mbasic 1987
and the ms-dos money program Qbasic 1990
and the ms-dos money program Qbasic 1990
johnx993
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Let's not forget SuperCalc.
gferluga
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Thank you! This is an example I was looking for...
gferluga
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And Microsoft Multiplan
Related to this tangent:
I would think that this type of software would be the least likely to have been copied and brought home by employees, and also a company would likely had been extra keen on avoiding data leaks, and thus unfortunately it's probably hard to find old accounting/book keeping software in general.
Related tangent: I have (not archived yet) two Swedish programs, not for CP/M though. V-BOK by ADB-Väst, in my case the version for the C128 but it was originally sold for the C64. And also the book keeping software created and sold by Datatronic, the company that imported Commodore to Sweden before early 1985. In my case it's for the CBM-II/B series.
A tangent on this tangent: Unfortunately my 8050 drive that should be able to read the disks is still broken (on the to-do list to fix) and the only other reasonably doable way of archiving the disks would be with a Greaseweazle/Kryoflux + 80 track 5.25" drive setup with the stepper motor driver disconnected and manually moving the heads to where the signal seems to be the strongest for each track, and read that track. Doable but a lot of work. A tangent on this tangent on this tangent: I also have the idea of creating an interface to connect the drive/"analogue" part of PET drives to a regular Shugart/PC floppy controller. That way I would only have to make sure that the mechanical parts + the "analogue" board (plus power supply) works to be able to image that book keeping disk. I also have the idea of doing the opposite, I.E. an interface to connect regular Shugart/PC drives to the digital part of a PET drive. Worth noting is that Apple II drives seem to be more or less the same as the analogue+mechnaical part of PET drives. I.E. Apple II and PET drives have separate signals for each stepper motor driver, while Shugart/PC drives have a direction and a step signal.
I would think that this type of software would be the least likely to have been copied and brought home by employees, and also a company would likely had been extra keen on avoiding data leaks, and thus unfortunately it's probably hard to find old accounting/book keeping software in general.
Related tangent: I have (not archived yet) two Swedish programs, not for CP/M though. V-BOK by ADB-Väst, in my case the version for the C128 but it was originally sold for the C64. And also the book keeping software created and sold by Datatronic, the company that imported Commodore to Sweden before early 1985. In my case it's for the CBM-II/B series.
A tangent on this tangent: Unfortunately my 8050 drive that should be able to read the disks is still broken (on the to-do list to fix) and the only other reasonably doable way of archiving the disks would be with a Greaseweazle/Kryoflux + 80 track 5.25" drive setup with the stepper motor driver disconnected and manually moving the heads to where the signal seems to be the strongest for each track, and read that track. Doable but a lot of work. A tangent on this tangent on this tangent: I also have the idea of creating an interface to connect the drive/"analogue" part of PET drives to a regular Shugart/PC floppy controller. That way I would only have to make sure that the mechanical parts + the "analogue" board (plus power supply) works to be able to image that book keeping disk. I also have the idea of doing the opposite, I.E. an interface to connect regular Shugart/PC drives to the digital part of a PET drive. Worth noting is that Apple II drives seem to be more or less the same as the analogue+mechnaical part of PET drives. I.E. Apple II and PET drives have separate signals for each stepper motor driver, while Shugart/PC drives have a direction and a step signal.
Thank you. Comparing them, they seem to have nothing in common except that they are both named MONEY.BAS.
furball1985
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This company produced Software in Book form where you typed in the basic code just like the magazine days
It is a little confusing to navigate. each section in the index is one book and each book has the same index. so if your going for section 6 then go to book 6.
the software will set you up a complete business system including a word processor. the software came out well before Word processors were common and it was before many of the spreadsheet software was released.
so imagine you bought a S-100 system and got basic loaded from Tape and then typed this in and saved it to cassette or paper tape for storage, or maybe one of the first 8" disk drives.
you typed this in and you had enough software to run accounting and inventory and output documents.
It is a little confusing to navigate. each section in the index is one book and each book has the same index. so if your going for section 6 then go to book 6.
the software will set you up a complete business system including a word processor. the software came out well before Word processors were common and it was before many of the spreadsheet software was released.
so imagine you bought a S-100 system and got basic loaded from Tape and then typed this in and saved it to cassette or paper tape for storage, or maybe one of the first 8" disk drives.
you typed this in and you had enough software to run accounting and inventory and output documents.
GeoffB17
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I had a set of the Peachtree packages, same as mentioned above. They were for the Epson QX10, I think they would have been specifically CP/M. Not sure if they were 'open' code though, notes I have suggest the code was compiled needing a run-time module. BRUN or BASRUN? I have ready access to the Purch Ledger part, other modules may be stored elsewhere, may need some digging, or disks may have been recycled even if I still have the manuals.
There was a PD disk with a complete MS-BAS 'General Ledger' system, I think I still have that somewhere. Not sure if that came with docs.
Bit more exotic, while I was a working programer, one of my jobs was looking after a commercial accounting system, back in the 90s However, this was coded totally in dBase III+, and compiled using Clipper. I certainly still have ALL the source code, which is not too far away from BASIC. We sold copied with most of the ledgers standard, but with bespoke modules added on as required. Stock, invoicing, etc could be totally bespoke. More so special requirements as needed. No full docs, but it's all fully stored in my head!! Still!!
Geoff
There was a PD disk with a complete MS-BAS 'General Ledger' system, I think I still have that somewhere. Not sure if that came with docs.
Bit more exotic, while I was a working programer, one of my jobs was looking after a commercial accounting system, back in the 90s However, this was coded totally in dBase III+, and compiled using Clipper. I certainly still have ALL the source code, which is not too far away from BASIC. We sold copied with most of the ledgers standard, but with bespoke modules added on as required. Stock, invoicing, etc could be totally bespoke. More so special requirements as needed. No full docs, but it's all fully stored in my head!! Still!!
Geoff
furball1985
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I think that peachtree and the Altair Accounting system was one in the same originally.
Peachtree had a deal with altair to provide the complete accounting system as a bundle.
later when Altair folded peachtree continued.
deramp has a accounting areas
deramp.com
altair accounting system: if you look at the last page in the manual it lists 3330 peachtree road.
altairclone.com
i played around with the altair accounting system years ago and its all chained BASIC code it was not even protected.
Peachtree had a deal with altair to provide the complete accounting system as a bundle.
later when Altair folded peachtree continued.
deramp has a accounting areas
deramp.com
altair accounting system: if you look at the last page in the manual it lists 3330 peachtree road.
altairclone.com
i played around with the altair accounting system years ago and its all chained BASIC code it was not even protected.
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durgadas311
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The copy of PeachTree I posted has been modified. The company (Magnolia MicroSystems) had a long relationship with PeachTree software and Magic Wand before it was subsumed by PeachTree. I don't know the exact progression, but at the very least the screens were modified to say "Magnolia MicroSystems" and I know there were fixes and other enhancements.
furball1985
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having a look at the peachtree archive it matches with the altair accounting system manual
i suspect its a later version of the same software, using the manual for the Altair accounting system should help nagivate the peachtree Magnolia
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GeoffB17
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The copy of the software that * have is a different version to others referred to here.
I got the packages long ago from EPSON UK via an EPSON User Group. They are explicitly branded as Epson, QX-10 and Peachtree. The disks in the package were QX-10 format, CP/M. The files are mostly .COM, there are no source files there, and BRUN.COM is there as well. The original *.bas have been 'compiled'.
I use an Amstrad PCW, CP/M 3, machine, and I have copied files from the original disks onto PCW format disks, and I have run the software on my PCW, and it works. There was an initial problem regarding drive F: (which is I think something peculiar to the QX-10) but I got around this and subsequent operations seemed to be OK. So I have a working Peachtree system which I assume could work on other CP/M platforms, disk format permitting.
I dug about (under a bed or two) and found other Peachtree floppy disks (for Sales L, Inventory, Payroll, something re comms, and some other bits) but I'd not tried - yet - to get anything else running on CP/m. There should be other manuals tucked away somewhere 'safe'!!
Geoff
I got the packages long ago from EPSON UK via an EPSON User Group. They are explicitly branded as Epson, QX-10 and Peachtree. The disks in the package were QX-10 format, CP/M. The files are mostly .COM, there are no source files there, and BRUN.COM is there as well. The original *.bas have been 'compiled'.
I use an Amstrad PCW, CP/M 3, machine, and I have copied files from the original disks onto PCW format disks, and I have run the software on my PCW, and it works. There was an initial problem regarding drive F: (which is I think something peculiar to the QX-10) but I got around this and subsequent operations seemed to be OK. So I have a working Peachtree system which I assume could work on other CP/M platforms, disk format permitting.
I dug about (under a bed or two) and found other Peachtree floppy disks (for Sales L, Inventory, Payroll, something re comms, and some other bits) but I'd not tried - yet - to get anything else running on CP/m. There should be other manuals tucked away somewhere 'safe'!!
Geoff