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Discussion on for sale posts by new members

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Quick summary to help keep things focused:

What members are raising:
  1. Several members want the Marketplace to feel like community-to-community, not Craigslist — i.e., primarily a benefit for participating hobbyists rather than a low-friction classifieds board for drive-by listings.
  2. We sometimes see brand-new / very low-post accounts using the Marketplace as a one-and-done sales channel (often at “eBay/Buy-It-Now” style pricing), which creates noise and frustration.
  3. Some members feel leaving those listings uncontested can mislead less-savvy readers, anchor unrealistic prices, and become searchable “reference points” later (including concerns about future data/AI scraping).
  4. Proposed ideas have included: an account age or participation gate before For Sale posts, requiring a first post in Introductions, and/or creating a clearer lane for Free/Rescue or appraisal/advice (with mixed opinions on adding subforums).
What admins are saying:
  1. New users are already moderated for their first posts, and Marketplace approvals are based on format/safety/clarity, not on whether a price is “reasonable.”
  2. We’re trying to avoid turning Marketplace threads into price-policing, because price debates frequently snowball into pile-ons, hostility, and personal attacks (and that increases moderation load and drives people away).
  3. Any change that adds friction or manual work has a real cost: we’re volunteers, and we also want to remain welcoming to legitimate new members (including estate / “found this in a room” situations).
Where we are right now:
  • No action items or policy changes have been decided. The staff team is going to discuss the feedback internally and consider whether there’s a simple, low-overhead way to address the concerns without creating new problems.
 
I just read the inciting thread and I gotta say, ShadowLord, man, you came in real hot on that one. Guy made an absolutely model For Sale post, responded to every question, made tangible concessions in the interest of “working with y’all” (industry term), textbook, perfect, no notes.

Ahhh random new member with six posts (as of me writing this) popping up out of no where conveniently to comment on a topic that is being discussed by people who have been here for years please do tell. Yes, he made a model post no questions there: good description, lots of pictures.

Now I have no idea what industry you work in or what your experience is in bargaining/wheeling and dealing but where I come from that would not be considered a tangible concession. Just the savings in eBay fees alone more then covers his "concession" many times over.

I don’t see anything that could possibly warrant the level of hostility you brought to the thread. The seller remained cool and level headed and eventually seems to have calmed you down. Why should they have to do that?

What hostility? I objectively laid out why his post was the exact reason we need limits on new members posting. If you need a refresher it is sitting in this thread a bit higher up. Calmed me down? From what? I have no issue with the seller and I am not angry with him. If you mean my acknowledging that his change in price was driven by other factors then trying to make his price here look better it is called being a "big boy" and admitting when you are wrong: I said he raised eBay prices because he wanted the forum price to look better when he raised prices because he added more equipment to the lot. Of course none of that changes the fact that it is still a BS concession.

Shadow Lord and MCL, you two are just bullies, snickering back and forth. You realize people can see you, right?
You realize I am not trying to hide. I want the community to benefit and if I can make changes for the better by calling things out I will do it. I don't want some newbie to show up and think he is getting a great deal because the post is on a legit forum and there is a "discount" from the eBay price.

People on the outside are looking in and seeing power users ganging up on a newbie, and that’s the bottom line. Threads like that embarrass us all. VCF is very important to me, and I do not appreciate the work being done to harm it.
Good for you. No one is ganging up on newbies. There is definitely a circle the wagons mentality to questionable sellers which IMO is a good thing. However a newbie asking for help and advice is welcomed universally by everyone here including me. Even newbie sellers who are not sus get the love. However, I am sure you have gotten a vibe of the place, the people on the forum, and figured out solutions to the issues all in your six posts and are commenting away.
 
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Ahhh random new member with six posts (as of me writing this) popping up out of no where conveniently to comment on a topic that is being discussed by people who have been here for years please do tell. Yes, he made a model post no questions there: good description, lots of pictures.

Now I have no idea what industry you work in or what your experience is in bargaining/wheeling and dealing but where I come from that would not be considered a tangible concession. Just the savings in eBay fees alone more then covers his "concession" many times over.



What hostility? I objectively laid out why his post was the exact reason we need limits on new members posting. If you need a refresher it is sitting in this thread a bit higher up. Calmed me down? From what? I have no issue with the seller and I am not angry with him. If you mean my acknowledging that his change in price was driven by other factors then trying to make his price here look better it is called being a "big boy" and admitting when you are wrong: I said he raised eBay prices because he wanted the forum price to look better when he raised prices because he added more equipment to the lot. Of course none of that changes the fact that it is still a BS concession.


You realize I am not trying to hide. I want the community to benefit and if I can make changes for the better by calling things out I will do it. I don't want some newbie to show up and think he is getting a great deal because the post is on a legit forum and there is a "discount" from the eBay price.


Good for you. No one is ganging up on newbies. There is definitely a circle the wagons mentality to questionable sellers which IMO is a good thing. However a newbie asking for help and advice is welcomed universally by everyone here including me. Even newbie sellers who are not sus get the love. However, I am sure you have gotten a vibe of the place, the people on the forum, and figured out solutions to the issues all in your six posts and are commenting away.
QED. I wish you well in your endeavors. The world needs more self-appointed cops.
 
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