New Platform Poll

[vwestlife]

No one says the makers of vB need to fix the issues. I remember back when I did run two forums, I fixed issues myself. It's PHP, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. None of that is magic. If you refuse to mess with that, changing to any other software won't help.

Then I suggest you contact the VCF Board of Directors and offer to help out. I'd love to know if you get any response from them. They haven't posted anything publicly since April.

 

[Chuck(G)]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if https was the reason for the change, why would it not be possible to use an https "wrapper" on the original?

I'm no expert in the ways of the Web, so please forgive me if this is a stupid question.

 

[mbbrutman]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if https was the reason for the change, why would it not be possible to use an https "wrapper" on the original?

I'm no expert in the ways of the Web, so please forgive me if this is a stupid question.

Not all security problems can be solved with encryption. Sometimes there are just flat-out bugs that need to be fixed. Hence the need for the forum upgrade, not just adding an SSL certificate.

 

[NeXT]

Not all security problems can be solved with encryption. Sometimes there are just flat-out bugs that need to be fixed. Hence the need for the forum upgrade, not just adding an SSL certificate.

A specific incident here on the forums that comes to mind was a few years ago when a serverside font went rogue and was acting as a trojan horse for a bitcoin miner that would run whenever the client connections downloaded and displayed the font. Even with https enabled it would not of stopped it because the font was downloaded through the encrypted connection and didn't originate from outside the server.

 

[whartung]

I remember back when I did run two forums, I fixed issues myself. It's PHP, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. None of that is magic.

If you're not fluent in these technologies, it's all magic. Getting cross browser/device/format/layouts to work is a dark art. Still. Even today. You seem to think that the legacy, 20+ year old VB code base, with incremental improvements made over time, across no doubt several versions of PHP, is accessible. I don't know that it is or not, but I'm skeptical.

Another board I am on, using VB3, did "fix issues themselves" over time. They were not able to successfully migrate to VB5. It didn't help that the person who did the fixes and changes over the years had died, nor did it help that the current admin was more a QuickBasic64 guy than a PHP/CSS/HTML/JS guy. They actually hired someone to do the conversion, whom one would casually assumed was more a PHP/CSS/HTML/JS guy, and they still failed to do the conversion.

They switched to XenForo and the conversion went really well, the problems that they are having are being managed by help desk tickets to the XenForo folks.

If you refuse to mess with that, changing to any other software won't help.

Pretty sure the folks here do NOT want to mess with that. They want to soak boards in alcohol and recap them. They want a system that meets their needs, and works with checkboxes and buttons, not ssh, vi, and PHP/CSS/HTML/JS hacking that won't be supported by the vendor.

 

[Lutiana]

No one says the makers of vB need to fix the issues. I remember back when I did run two forums, I fixed issues myself. It's PHP, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. None of that is magic. If you refuse to mess with that, changing to any other software won't help.

Awesome, glad to have your expertise on the volunteer team to fix this closed source, badly maintained software. When can you start?

 

[rouar]

Whichever of the three options doesn't report user's browsing habits to Facebook, like the current forum does!

It does not. If you are referring to the Javascript found in the html source, it is for the Connect With Facebook Account when you register, which is currently broken; and the Share Post button, which is disabled.

 

[njroadfan]

The problems aren't going to be solved because vBulletin is a dead-end. They have no interest in doing anything more than necessary security updates.

I find this baffling considering Internet Brands migrated and runs all the forum sites they purchased over the years on vB. You'd think they would keep up with the bug fixes and new improvements if they themselves have to deal with it!