Caluser2000
Banned
Stop being naughty. You know they mean desktop users.
No, it doesn't, because A. mePhone/fondleslab users have been conditioned to never poke at the workings in such a way that would screw up the fragile balance of a million discrete, interoperating components that makes Linux a nightmare for normal desktop users, and B. Google is the one exception (although even they're only a partial one) to the rule about Linux usability reformers completely failing to understand usability.So Android doesn't count?
screw up the fragile balance of a million discrete, interoperating components that makes Linux a nightmare for normal desktop users
Linux usability reformers completely failing to understand usability.
At the risk of sounding a little offensive, I would like to mention one more thing. If someone would claim to have much computer smarts, is it not a little disingenuous to then also claim to not be able to get a Linux box set up? I personally couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag if my life depended on it, but I can still get Linux to work.
What I find offensively disingenuous is your definition of computer smarts as being able to install Linux. I've had trouble installing Linux despite my 50+ fairly successful years of computer experience, programming, designing, building, selling and supporting computer systems (including UNIX boxes); fortunately my clients' criteria for 'computer smarts' are a little broader than yours.At the risk of sounding a little offensive, I would like to mention one more thing. If someone would claim to have much computer smarts, is it not a little disingenuous to then also claim to not be able to get a Linux box set up?
How long did the very first install take? Did you have to ask for help? Did you install a printer/scanner/modem/special video card/email/browser,etc., in other words a real-world system?I personally couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag if my life depended on it, but I can still get Linux to work.
How about getting back to XP's EOL...
But, whatever, different strokes for different folks. If Linux isn't your cup of tea nobody's forcing you to drink it, I just don't understand this obsession some people have with pissing in the other punch bowls.
Kinda sounds like Linux would be the perfect answer for a majority of the member base here....because the Linux user community is a bunch of freeloaders who refuse to pay for anything.
Their entire belief system is that using free open-source software is more important than using whatever works best -- which certainly doesn't help the general impression within the industry that trying to sell commercial Linux software is pointless because the Linux user community is a bunch of freeloaders who refuse to pay for anything.
Which explains why most web servers are running Linux or BSD (including this one since at least 2007) and not Windows.
Obviously meant ironically, after a lengthy post doing exactly that....I just don't understand this obsession some people have with pissing in the other punch bowls.
Obviously meant ironically, after a lengthy post doing exactly that.
As I said, it just doesn't seem possible to discuss any issues or possible improvements to Linux without it becoming an irrelevant kids-in-a-sandbox defensive argument that Windows is worse;
sort of like suggesting that the handling of a Ford Model XYZ could be improved and being met by a torrent of replies that a Chevy model ABC handles even worse.
Interestingly, when you suggest that an aspect of Windows could use improvement, most Windows users will usually agree or at least consider it.
IMO pretty well all OSes could stand a lot of improvement in the areas of intuitive UI, ease of upgrading/repair etc., and in any case it's usually the application software usability, reliability and suitability for purpose that the user is really interested in, not arcane aspects of the OS.
Yeah because it's certainly the most stable and secure. It's also more flexible.
But I think we were focused on desktop user experience.
I think the can of worms has already been opened. I'll still be using XP for quite a bit no dought. It works with all my hardware.How about getting back to XP's EOL...
LOL! This from the person writing some of the least polite (IMO) posts in this thread, not to mention misinterpreting and twisting others' words and meaning...... If you like how your dead bird smells, well, enjoy it, just maybe try to be polite about mine.