I dont think you bothered to read anything in this entire posting. Never mentioned anything about windows. Seems you had this argument loaded and ready to go regardless.
Seems your not following along with this conversation at all....
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Why buying any modern Apple Product is just a terrible idea.
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Seems your not following along with this conversation at all....
Guess you never bothered to see the myriad of posts I made about how every version of windows past 7 is unusable. Which is odd because Im pretty sure most members here would agree I repeat myself.
But hes right. This isnt a windows (its really PC not windows) vs mac argument. It never was. It was a post about using an older Ipad. And getting network file access. You seem to want to make it about using macs vs windows. But that point is irrelevant here. If your point is Buy new throw away old. That too is irrelevant here. Its a vintage computer forum after all. We make it a point to connect old things to new things.
Edit: @thisisamigaspeaking Im not here to throw shade at you for liking Mac. I love Apple II stuff. I dabble in some older mac stuff. Its fine. Its all fine. But im not going to agree they are a good company with good practices TODAY. I have my opinion on them and you have yours. This thread really has nothing to do with either side. I just wanted to get functionality on this device..... Thats it. But it seems to be needless roadblock after needless roadblock and if it was a good device or had a good company supporting it this wouldn't be a problem.
We dont need to agree on apple. We like Amiga right?
But hes right. This isnt a windows (its really PC not windows) vs mac argument. It never was. It was a post about using an older Ipad. And getting network file access. You seem to want to make it about using macs vs windows. But that point is irrelevant here. If your point is Buy new throw away old. That too is irrelevant here. Its a vintage computer forum after all. We make it a point to connect old things to new things.
Edit: @thisisamigaspeaking Im not here to throw shade at you for liking Mac. I love Apple II stuff. I dabble in some older mac stuff. Its fine. Its all fine. But im not going to agree they are a good company with good practices TODAY. I have my opinion on them and you have yours. This thread really has nothing to do with either side. I just wanted to get functionality on this device..... Thats it. But it seems to be needless roadblock after needless roadblock and if it was a good device or had a good company supporting it this wouldn't be a problem.
We dont need to agree on apple. We like Amiga right?
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This not a "troll thread/shit post". It's a serious concern on an open forum. If you are 'dumping' then you are considered the 'troll'
resman
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Not sure this app fits your bill, but I use GoodReader on my original iPad. Yes, iPad version 1. GoodReader, at least the early version I have, lets you download files (texts, PDFs, etc) over the local network using SMB. Still use it, but I came to the conclusion at the beginning that I'm not an iPad kind of guy.
Thanks for recommending. It did come up in some searches I was doing.
thisisamigaspeaking
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Let's not forget the topic is "Why buying any modern Apple Product is just a terrible idea" which automatically does put anyone who has done so in the light of having had a terrible idea, and invites defense by such a person of why it is not a terrible idea. "Why I don't like modern Apple Products" might be less provocative, the current topic is what I would call "bait".
Not worth belaboring. No harm done, I didn't take offense, just felt like it was worth stating why I think it's not a terrible idea at all, that in fact I think there is no serious competition.
I get that,. Thats all in the past of this thread. I know I could have started a new thread but I would have rather completed this one. I hope you see I am trying to put a happy ending on this journey.. And Im persistently not giving up yet.
cjs
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FWIW, I was, am, and always have. :-)
I feel that, "How can I do what I want on my Apple product rather than what Apple wants," especially when it's a product that Apple specifically does not want you using at all, is rather a troll post.
Ah, now we're back on topic! (And I utterly disagree with this; Windows 10 was, and still is, the best consumer OS that Microsoft has ever produced, and easily exceeds MacOS for beginner-friendliness in a number of ways. But I'll leave it at that; I have programming to get back to.)
How dare he want to use the product he owns for what he wants to use it for! Would you agree then that anyone having trouble modding, upgrading, or repairing their vintage computer and asking for help on this forum is trolling, because the original manufacturer did not intend for them to be using it 30+ years later?
cjs
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No, I would not agree. There's a big difference between:
- "We made a fairly open system that should be usable until the hardware dies, though we're not supporting it any more," and
- "We've made a system deliberately locked down, with cryptography that literally forces you into criminal actions if you try to run your own software on the hardware, because we want to make sure you can't use it for anything we don't approve of."
As a side note, this level of interference into what you can do with things you feel you "own" is centuries old. A long, long time ago you could buy a scroll from someone, copy the information on it out to another scroll, and give or sell that copy to someone else. Then one day western society decided that you no longer had the right to make copies like that. Same thing: it's a social limitation creating an opportunity for rent-seeking that does not exist in nature.
(As an even more aside note: wanting this level of control over what others can do seems to be a common desire amongst all of us from time to time. Such as people not content to just add someone to their ignore list, but who want to actively force others to stop making posts that criticise them.)
Your facts are wrong here - Jailbreaking has been explicitly legal in the US since 2010: https://www.macworld.com/article/206764/jailbreak_exemption.html
A similar law exists in the EU, IIRC.
Regardless, people break "locked down" parts of vintage computers all the time - like reverse engineering BIOS or software. Or even just reverse engineering a board schematic that the manufacturer never made available.
A similar law exists in the EU, IIRC.
Regardless, people break "locked down" parts of vintage computers all the time - like reverse engineering BIOS or software. Or even just reverse engineering a board schematic that the manufacturer never made available.
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Correct and with Apple the only penalty is that you void your warranty.
In practice not even that has been true, even if it is in technicality. I remember seeing a video where someone had sent a clearly jailbroken iPad in for a warranty display replacement and they had no trouble. In any case, if you restore the device to factory settings, there's zero way to even tell it had been jailbroken anyway.
Type "Cydia." If the Cydia app appears in the search results, the iPad is jailbroken. If the Cydia app isn't present, you will see only "Search Web" and "Search ...
What do you mean you don't know what I mean. It's a way telling if your iPad or iPhone had been 'Jailbroken'. Suppose you came by one of those 2nd hand and needed to send it in to Apple for what ever reason. What do you think Apple's take will be when see Cydia on it?