This is related to the huge lot of old stuff I posted about in this thread:
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcf...ntage-hardware-and-electronics-XT-MFM-ISA-etc
First off, I'm using an IBM 5150 with a WD1002A-WX1 MFM controller card, supplemented by a 300W AT PSU to test a pile of old drives. The floppy drive in this system needs some work, for sure, so I resorted to using a standard 1.44MB floppy drive with the cable backward as advised here, with a standard 1.44MB floppy taped off and formatted as a 720K floppy. This. Works. BEAUTIFULLY! ... after struggling with a broken down Tandon 360K drive, this thing is a breath of fresh air. What I currently have on this disk is a bare bones copy of DOS 3.3 (as downloaded from the link above) with Speedstor 6.03 and Spinrite II on it. I'm using this to boot to DOS.
To get to the point quickly because its nearly 1AM... So far, all three of the drives I've tested spin up but I've only had one that passed all the tests in Speedstor and allowed me to format it with G=C800:5. It is an NEC D5124 10MB drive.
Without getting into troubleshooting the other drives just yet, I'd like to ask a couple questions about what I'm experiencing with this one.
First, when I formatted it using Speedstor, rather than G=C800:5, it worked but gave a seek error and became corrupt part way through copying all of the files from the A drive to it. Reformatting with G=C800:5 worked, and then I was able to copy all of the files to it without a hitch. I was curious as to whether I could boot from the hard drive with this system or not, and I couldn't figure out how to get DOS 3.3 without XCOPY or ATTRIB to copy the needed hidden\system files, so I attempted "format C: /s" which ran for a while before the drive made a different motor sound and I was told that the format failed. On this drive there's a little wheel (labeled interrupter) that moves around slightly when the drive is busy, but any time it fails\errors this wheel spins continuously until it gets all the way around one full turn and resets back to its original position (I'm assuming it must be connected to the heads somehow and this is what stops them from wandering off the platters?).
Anyway... I want to be optimistic and say that I just don't know what I'm doing and that it can only be formatted properly with the drive controller's utility and not via "FORMAT" in DOS or in Speedstor... but I have a feeling that there's more going on here. What do you guy's think?
So, as a side note... can a 5150 boot from a hard drive? And how on earth can you copy MSDOS 3.3 hidden files from a disk without XCOPY and other external commands? And where can I find all of the proper DOS 3.3 compatible executables to give me all of the commands I'm used to?
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcf...ntage-hardware-and-electronics-XT-MFM-ISA-etc
First off, I'm using an IBM 5150 with a WD1002A-WX1 MFM controller card, supplemented by a 300W AT PSU to test a pile of old drives. The floppy drive in this system needs some work, for sure, so I resorted to using a standard 1.44MB floppy drive with the cable backward as advised here, with a standard 1.44MB floppy taped off and formatted as a 720K floppy. This. Works. BEAUTIFULLY! ... after struggling with a broken down Tandon 360K drive, this thing is a breath of fresh air. What I currently have on this disk is a bare bones copy of DOS 3.3 (as downloaded from the link above) with Speedstor 6.03 and Spinrite II on it. I'm using this to boot to DOS.
To get to the point quickly because its nearly 1AM... So far, all three of the drives I've tested spin up but I've only had one that passed all the tests in Speedstor and allowed me to format it with G=C800:5. It is an NEC D5124 10MB drive.
Without getting into troubleshooting the other drives just yet, I'd like to ask a couple questions about what I'm experiencing with this one.
First, when I formatted it using Speedstor, rather than G=C800:5, it worked but gave a seek error and became corrupt part way through copying all of the files from the A drive to it. Reformatting with G=C800:5 worked, and then I was able to copy all of the files to it without a hitch. I was curious as to whether I could boot from the hard drive with this system or not, and I couldn't figure out how to get DOS 3.3 without XCOPY or ATTRIB to copy the needed hidden\system files, so I attempted "format C: /s" which ran for a while before the drive made a different motor sound and I was told that the format failed. On this drive there's a little wheel (labeled interrupter) that moves around slightly when the drive is busy, but any time it fails\errors this wheel spins continuously until it gets all the way around one full turn and resets back to its original position (I'm assuming it must be connected to the heads somehow and this is what stops them from wandering off the platters?).
Anyway... I want to be optimistic and say that I just don't know what I'm doing and that it can only be formatted properly with the drive controller's utility and not via "FORMAT" in DOS or in Speedstor... but I have a feeling that there's more going on here. What do you guy's think?
So, as a side note... can a 5150 boot from a hard drive? And how on earth can you copy MSDOS 3.3 hidden files from a disk without XCOPY and other external commands? And where can I find all of the proper DOS 3.3 compatible executables to give me all of the commands I'm used to?