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Ibm ps/1

TandyMan100

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Location
At my computer
Specifications:

IBM PS/1 Type 2121-A82
FCC ID: ANO2121-C20
S/N: 23-8200314
Mfg Date: April 21 1992
386sx 20Mhz CPU with 2MB RAM and large ROM.
Can add 4MB for a total of 6MB
81MB Hard Drive
Uses ps2 keyboard & mouse included
Has two 16-bit ISA expansion slots
Includes 2400 baud internal modem

Software:

IBM Dos 1991
Microsoft Works
Windows 3.1
And More

If interested shoot me a PM. Not mine, it's a friends.
 

EPA

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Messages
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IBM Promenade

IBM Promenade

Hello from Freiburg, Germany!

Does your PS/1 holds also IBM Promenade service?

Thanks,
Manfred
 

NathanAllan

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Location
Bellevue, Colorado
Is that one of the Executive Series? As in a tower not a desktop?? The system specs seem very similar to the one I have here that lacks the case.
 

65535

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Messages
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the 2011 and 2121 series are compact form factors that had the power supply in the CRT. They also had DOS in ROM and typically booted to a 4quad screen from which you choose what task you want to do. the 2121 series came preloaded with Win 3.0.
 

EPA

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Promenade 2.0: A new (old) Geoworks version found!

Promenade 2.0: A new (old) Geoworks version found!

This I wrote in the geos-talk Newsgroup at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/geos-talk/ today (and changed a little bit for here):

(Story 1 of 2)

I have searched so long for any unknown GEOS stuff, software and hardware. After
many years and uncount nights some "white spots" in the GEOS history now are
bright and clear, filled up with colors and many informations.

Not only I have searched so long for Brother or Canon systems with embedded GEOS
like Brother LW-750ic and Brother DP-300cj or Canon StarWriter Pro 5000 and Pro
7000 - but I truly found them also after intensive searches over our good old
Internet!

I also have found good GEOS friends, who helped me out here and there with
informations or with other things: Brian Dougherty, Frank S. Fischer, Ray
Kopczynski and some other real good guys!

From a GWRep I got a nice CD with AOL stuff and some GeoWorks versions, also
GEOWORKS Ensemble 1.0 US (!) or I have got the nice and forgotten Global PC
update 1.3... I have collected here and there, but the best and absolutely rare
GEOS things I must search and found at my own.

Three versions were unfindable all the years:

- A real Geoworks BETA (from summer 1990)
- The OS/2 SchoolView version
- IBM's Promenade Online service (GEOS with CUA gui!)

But the waiting is over, 'cause I have found an US eBayer in Florida, who wanted
to sell a so called IBM PS/1 model 2123 WITH Promenade!


========================================
IBM PS/1 model 2123 with Promenade !?
========================================


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BIG pictures:

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http://www.broimg.de/pics/SXqnXKc9myGqXqGIYXTbqoGJo.jpg



I wanted to buy that nice machine, but hurdles wanted me to stop: He only let
bid for US citzens! For me as a German no chance, 'cause the bidding has also
started. So I must "change" my eBay entries and could bid and I really won that
auction!

The story behind: The owner have put that nice PC and the CRT monitor back in
their two boxes back in 1993 and so nobody have worked with them since 17
YEARS!!!

For $117 it was mine and the USPS fee about $136 and the import vat of 32 Euro
are much, but not too much for a REAL GEOS DIGGER!

And so I waited for the machine and catched it up at Freiburg customs.
At home the fearfully questions: Will it start? Will it boot? Will it really
have Promenade "on board"?

I have found also AOL 1.0 for DOS and thought: How will Promenade looks like, IF
IT IS REALLY ON HD?


=========================================
Here some pictures of AOL 1.0 for DOS:
=========================================


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BIG pictures:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/mOLc3knPWNWpUQkpw2CqKVU4s.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/bW69vTIOn4wigoVTOzMzKogra.jpg


===============================
Pictures of AOL 1.6 for DOS:
===============================


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BIG pictures:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/S59IR9LVb9AA.gif

http://www.broimg.de/pics/RvDzC4howppI.gif


I changed first the AC voltage on the back from 115V to German 230V, connected
IBM mouse, IBM keyboard and AC cable and switched on that machine, fingers
crossed!

WOW: It started really after 17 years! But what was that? Failure 161 and 163?
No further booting? As an old IBM and ThinkPad user I knew: Failure 161 = RAM,
163 = wrong time and date...

I found a STARTER DISK in the big box and booted again. After some needed
entries and rebooting the system started without any problems!
IBM DOS 5.0, the nice IBM picture over hwcheck.exe, the windows
3.1...but...where is the folder called C:\PROMENAD...?

The last trace I found was in that picture:

==============================================
IF NOT EXIST C:\PROMENAD\GEOS.EXE GOTO DONE
==============================================


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BIG picture:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/nA8N4m15scbIzbEUzdiO0H7b1.jpg


No Promenad folder, no entries! And so no Promenade?

But wait a minute: That nice US eBayer has put also 11 backup disks with ZIP
files on it in the box which are also saved in the folder C:\RECOVERY on
harddisk and so I thought:

Last stop to final win or lost?

With the input of: PKUNZIP -T *.ZIP I could saw the entries within that ZIP
files which flew over the screen and in ZIP disk #8 THERE WAS PROMENADE, indeed!

So I made another input: PKUNZIP -D *.ZIP and all of that IBM preloaded stuff
was now unpacked at the end (in a seperate own folder)!

What would I see If I have started Promenade?


Dear Ladies and Gentleman! Please, take a seat! We will now show you a moment
you will never forget: After 17 years of sleep you all will now see a live
picture of a forgotten GEOS version: PROMENADE 2.0:


========================
IBM Promenade Service
========================



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Isn't this cool?

I have more of that:

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BIG pictures:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/YLRJziVUdO2iFSwqlzK2yIdkZ.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/luoLHFGzOjdavNvKNGs7EWU0i.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/HWmechWzEHND9E20o0P8M4uau.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/Wxf5WBJJSM4WNZii0BPNWZ9Oi.jpg


It looks like AOL for DOS, you will cry out! But wait a minute! Will you see the
GUI? AOL has MOTIF and Promenade CUA!!

But IBM closed the doors to the Promenade service soon in 1994!
So no real dialling is possible...


So I tried another thing: I installed the 11 disks on a virtual PS/1 in Virtual
PC 2007:

=======================
A PS/1 as vitual PC?
=======================


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BIG picture:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/80FaJwlIQhTGxsbvEZ4c5uTxp.jpg


And i tried also more: I installed there on that virtual harddisk our Geoworks
Ensemble v1.0 (!) and copied the needed files for Promenade in the folder
SYSTEM\QFORMS:

======================
Promenade in WORLD!
======================


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BIG picture:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/Jqa9GGQpTRvn53qbw3znGohZf.jpg


Yes, that's really possible! Normally AOL for DOS and Promenade are STANDALONE
versions, but it is possible to start them also as normal GEOS programs!

And if you have copied all needed files for AOL and Promenade in the QFORMS
folder, you can start BOTH TOGETHER:


===================================
AOL and Promenade, both started!
===================================


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BIG picture:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/Mp6Ut91F2l3xMC05BH8B3CFVH.jpg


Now travel back in the year 1993 and buy a PS/1 model 2123 with internal 2400
modem and also an external modem, start AOL and Promenade and work with BOTH at
the same time! WHAT A FEELING!

(...) >>>
 
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EPA

New Member
Joined
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Messages
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End of story:

But the PS/1 2123 have much more Promenade stuff:

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PS/1 Tutorial:
=================


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BIG picture:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/ppgaT3d0CVLRFc0qxsRcDhNuQ.jpg


In that special tutorial welcome screen you can choose point 2: Software
Descriptions
and you will see some nice Promenade informations:

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BIG pictures:

http://www.broimg.de/pics/vaDVkwo5eMhwoKwbZs3aUodC5.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/FeVJ43Gquzm6PZ3IgbSKm3zpk.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/WnDT7yVbeY8vqnC2fxBHBJSGY.jpg

http://www.broimg.de/pics/jRKpf0rsvotIeMFCIjI1t9KkD.jpg




So, guys, I hope you have had fun to read my nice story and if you have any
questions ask me, EPA, the REAL GEOS DIGGER!


BTW: I came in contact with DOUGLAS WHATLEY, the "father" of Promenade and he
will search for his Promenade copies and some other GEOWORKS stuff for us all!

==============================================
DOUG WHATLEY, the real father of Promenade!
==============================================


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"fas.org/gamesummit/Bios.html - [Cached Version]
Published on: 8/8/2009 Last Visited: 8/8/2009
Douglas Whatley CEO, BreakAway Games

Doug Whatley is an interactive entertainment industry veteran with nearly 20
years of successful game development and management experience, Doug is a
lifelong gamer. This avocation allowed him to transform a "hobbyists pursuit"
into a thriving business venture. He got his start with board games back in the
1970s and later designed and produced the original America Online PC client
software in the 1980s. He also developed the Promenade online service for IBM
and worked on AppleLink for the Macintosh and Apple II during that time."


"IBM Promenade Online

As a member of www.geos-infobase.de I am searching for all GEOS versions. AOL
for DOS I have found. But we also are searching for IBM Promenade. Douglas, can
you give us some information about your developer time or do you have Promenade
in real on any diskette or on harddisk? I know, 1990 has long gone, but maybe
Promenade was your "child" and it was a Geoworks Beta with GEOS GUI and so
important for us!

Thanks for any possible help and greetings from Freiburg, Germany!

Manfred"


"Manfred, Greetings to Freiburg, Germany from Baltimore, USA!

You are naming names that I haven't heard for many years. But, you are
correct, Promenade was a bit of a 'child' for me. I am pretty sure that I have
several sets of the original diskettes and I may have some other things from
Geoworks back then. I will have to dig them out of old boxes in my basement, but
I do have some of that stuff.

Give me a couple of days to find what I have and I will send you a note.

Doug W"


So you will see, GEOS is coming back to life, if we all do some work for it!

Greetings also to Frank S. Fischer and John Howard from Breadbox!
I wish you both really the long awaited BREAKTHROUGH with GEOS 5 in 32bit!!!

For today your
EPA (Manfred)
 
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