hargle
Veteran Member
Mike Brutman and I had discussed this briefly; just thought I'd start a thread to gather up some more ideas on the subject.
In a nutshell, we want the ability to hook up IDE devices to the PCjr.
There aren't a lot of options though. The modem port would be ideal, since it would just be another plug-in card, but there doesn't appear to be enough IO available, and what about the BIOS?
Then the idea of a sidecar came up. Since we can't realistically do up a whole plastic shell sidecar, we thought that perhaps taking apart a commonly available LPT sidecar might do the trick. Replace the entire PCB from an LPT sidecar and wedge a new XTIDE PCB in there instead, possibly even keeping the LPT functionality.
Last night, I did exactly that, and here's what I found:
The entire LPT sidecar:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjrLPT1.jpg
The 30x2 connector on the card is a big problem. where can we find those?
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjr_sidecarheader.jpg
Here's the pinout for it:
http://www.brutman.com/PCjr/pcjr_isa_adapter.html
It turns out we might not have to. Half of it comes apart with a couple screws:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjr_headerRemoved.jpg
The part that comes off just happens to be the side that you'd push onto the side of the PCjr. That means that our sidecar would have to be the last car on the chain, as there would be no thru-connector for the next sidecar. Probably not that big of a deal.
then I noticed that the PCB is the exact same size as the IDE->CF adapters I've been using on my other 8088 machines:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjr_CFIDE.jpg
All it would take would be to make a new XTIDE PCB with a few additional (large) holes drilled in it for mounting into the sidecar housing, and then change the ISA tooth connectors to a pin header. Route a very short IDE cable over to the CF adapter, and then figure out a way to mount the CF bracket to the back of the card. Some use of a dremell required.
Another option would be to use some more modern parts to re-create the LPT functionality in a smaller footprint, squish the entire thing down over to the back side of the card, and then make an entirely internal XTIDE on the other half of the PCB and mount a microdrive inside it. I think there would be room for that. No room or power for an actual 12v hard drive, but I think a 5v CF or microdrive should have enough juice through the sidecar connectors.
Just kicking ideas at the moment. This would be a very, very small run of cards, and you'd have to supply your own LPT sidecar. Cost should be under $100 easily.
In a nutshell, we want the ability to hook up IDE devices to the PCjr.
There aren't a lot of options though. The modem port would be ideal, since it would just be another plug-in card, but there doesn't appear to be enough IO available, and what about the BIOS?
Then the idea of a sidecar came up. Since we can't realistically do up a whole plastic shell sidecar, we thought that perhaps taking apart a commonly available LPT sidecar might do the trick. Replace the entire PCB from an LPT sidecar and wedge a new XTIDE PCB in there instead, possibly even keeping the LPT functionality.
Last night, I did exactly that, and here's what I found:
The entire LPT sidecar:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjrLPT1.jpg
The 30x2 connector on the card is a big problem. where can we find those?
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjr_sidecarheader.jpg
Here's the pinout for it:
http://www.brutman.com/PCjr/pcjr_isa_adapter.html
It turns out we might not have to. Half of it comes apart with a couple screws:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjr_headerRemoved.jpg
The part that comes off just happens to be the side that you'd push onto the side of the PCjr. That means that our sidecar would have to be the last car on the chain, as there would be no thru-connector for the next sidecar. Probably not that big of a deal.
then I noticed that the PCB is the exact same size as the IDE->CF adapters I've been using on my other 8088 machines:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/hargle/pcjr_CFIDE.jpg
All it would take would be to make a new XTIDE PCB with a few additional (large) holes drilled in it for mounting into the sidecar housing, and then change the ISA tooth connectors to a pin header. Route a very short IDE cable over to the CF adapter, and then figure out a way to mount the CF bracket to the back of the card. Some use of a dremell required.
Another option would be to use some more modern parts to re-create the LPT functionality in a smaller footprint, squish the entire thing down over to the back side of the card, and then make an entirely internal XTIDE on the other half of the PCB and mount a microdrive inside it. I think there would be room for that. No room or power for an actual 12v hard drive, but I think a 5v CF or microdrive should have enough juice through the sidecar connectors.
Just kicking ideas at the moment. This would be a very, very small run of cards, and you'd have to supply your own LPT sidecar. Cost should be under $100 easily.