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Help with IBM 5160 XT on Internet Browser

johnnydicamillo

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I look at fdisk.com and looked at bobcat the internet browser which would be compatible with my IBM 5160 XT, however the files is too large to fit on a 360kb floppy, how would I go about dong this, is there other alternatives. I have tried the minuet web browser however it fails to start up. Any help would be great.


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One way to negate the floppy capacity issue is to load it in as a file (or files) via the serial port from a more modern computer using a comm program such as procomm or telix on the XT? Hyperterminal is a good program to use on the host side. It comes with XP and I think earlier versions of Windows too.

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Since you've got a hard drive, try moving the files over using Interlink, or serial port transfer, get an 8-bit NIC, substitute 3½" drives for your 5¼" ones to give you 720K per floppy (without changing the controller), use a ZIP drive, get an XTIDE (you should be able to add files to the CF card from just about any PC with a CF card reader. There are utilities to split a file in pieces so that you can recombine the pieces on your 5160's hard drive.

Lots of options...
 

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As Chuck(G) mentioned, there are file utilities that can split the file into pieces. I would suggest Winrar to split the 1.1MB file into 4 parts, copy them one at a time to the XT and re-assemble with the DOS version of Rar.

FWIW, there is a ton of old browsers at http://browsers.evolt.org/ you can look at too. Might find something as small as 360k to play with.
 

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I attempted to use bobcat back in the 90's with my XT...even then, it wasn't so usable for browsing web pages. I didn't take long to switch over to a Telnet client and a shell account on Grex, which is a public-access UNIX box in Ann Arbor, MI. They're still up and running, and provide mostly text-based services including e-mail accessible by a number of text-only clients (I prefer pine/alpine). You can of course use the Lynx (related to Bobcat) or Links browsers from the command line, and if you're using a terminal client for the XT that supports X/Y/Zmodem or Kermit, you can transfer files downloaded from the web directly to your XT.

I'd recommend checking out Mike Brutman's mTCP package...good DOS utilities for connecting to TCP/IP services, and they're /intended/ for use on really old PC-compatibles.
 

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I attempted to use bobcat back in the 90's with my XT...even then, it wasn't so usable for browsing web pages. I didn't take long to switch over to a Telnet client and a shell account on Grex, which is a public-access UNIX box in Ann Arbor, MI. They're still up and running, and provide mostly text-based services including e-mail accessible by a number of text-only clients (I prefer pine/alpine). You can of course use the Lynx (related to Bobcat) or Links browsers from the command line, and if you're using a terminal client for the XT that supports X/Y/Zmodem or Kermit, you can transfer files downloaded from the web directly to your XT.

I'd recommend checking out Mike Brutman's mTCP package...good DOS utilities for connecting to TCP/IP services, and they're /intended/ for use on really old PC-compatibles.


I agree. While Telnet, FTP, IRC, DHCP, PING, etc. are well within reach on an XT class machine, browsing is just an exercise in frustration. It's not feasible without a lot more horsepower and extended memory. Fetching the content is easy - rendering it in a usable way is not.

Gopher would be interesting, and probably far more doable. Anybody want to bring Gopher back? :)
 

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Gopher would be interesting, and probably far more doable. Anybody want to bring Gopher back? :)
Well, there are still a few Gopher sites running out there in Gopherspace! It's still a valid way of presenting textual data, and I believe Firefox will act as a Gopher browser, too.
 

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