oktology
Experienced Member
I can certainly suss it out from the Qbus Field Guide and DEC documentation, but I was hoping that someone had already put together a list of the cards that have the capacity to mount boot ROMs.
I added booting from CF cards to the KDJ11-B ROMI don't know why you would want to change the ROM
What hardware interface do you use to the CF card?I added booting from CF cards to the KDJ11-B ROM
Homemade hardware.What hardware interface do you use to the CF card?
Testing in progress - Please wait
Memory Size is 4088 K Bytes
9 Step memory test
Step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Message 04 Entering Dialog mode
Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test.
Type a command then press the RETURN key: BOO ZC32
Trying ZC32
Starting system from ZC32
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 2044.KW System:"KXX002"
>RED ZC1:=SY:
>RED ZC1:=LB:
>RED ZC1:=SP:
>MOU ZC1:"RSX11MPBL87"
>@ZC1:[1,2]STARTUP
>; PLEASE NOTE
>;
>; If you have not yet read the system release notes, please do so
>; now before attempting to perform a SYSGEN or to utilize the new
>; features of this system.
>;
>;
>* Please enter time and date (HH:MM DD-MMM-YYYY) [S]: 19:01 10-JUN-2021
>TIME 19:01 10-JUN-2021
>ACS SY:/BLKS=1024.
>CON ONLINE ALL
>ELI /LOG/LIM
>CLI /INIT=DCL/CTRLC/DPR="<15><12>/$ /"
>INS LB:[1,1]RMSRESAB.TSK/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS LB:[1,1]RMSLBL.TSK/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS LB:[1,1]RMSLBM.TSK/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS $QMGCLI
>INS $QMGCLI/TASK=...PRI
>INS $QMGCLI/TASK=...SUB
>QUE /START:QMG
>INS $QMGPRT/TASK=PRT.../SLV=NO
>QUE LP0:/CR/NM
>START/ACCOUNTING
>CON ESTAT LP0:
>QUE BAP0:/BATCH
>QUE BAP0:/AS:BATCH
>SET /EBC=TI:
>VCP CONNECT LB:[DISKS]UTILS.DSK=VF0:
VCP - Device VF0: has been assigned.
>MOU VF0:UTILS/PUB
>ASN VF0:=LB1:/GBL
>REM ...CA.
>INS LB1:[4,54]CCLRES.TSK/TASK=...CA.
>INS LB1:[4,54]CCL.TSK/TASK=...CA0
>INS LB1:[4,54]POLICE/TASK=...CA1
>INS LB1:[1,1]NDTBAS/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS LB1:[1,1]MIMRES/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS $BAD
>INS $BRU
>INS $CMP
>INS $CRF
>INS $DMP
>INS $LBR
>INS $MAC
>INS $RPT
>INS $SLP
>INS $TKB
>INS $VFY
>INS $VMR
>INS $ZAP
>INS LB1:[4,54]BICRES
>INS LB1:[4,54]DOBRES
>INS LB1:[4,54]DUP/INC=18000.
>INS LB1:[4,54]ERR
>INS LB1:[4,54]MIMRES
>INS LB1:[4,54]MIMRES/TASK=...NDT
>INS LB1:[4,54]MIMRES/TASK=...MMM
>INS LB1:[4,54]MO
>INS LB1:[4,54]SRDRES
>ACD UNLINK TI:
>ACD REMOVE NUMBER 20
That ACD is not installed
>ACD INSTALL LB1:[ACD2]MIMACD.TSK AS NUMBER 20 ASSIGN ACD$MIM
>ACD LINK TI: TO NUMBER 20
>@ <EOF>
>DEV
VF0: Public Mounted Loaded Label=UTILS Type=unknown
.....
VF17: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
TT0: [1,54] [1,54] - Logged in Loaded
TT1: Offline Loaded
TT2: Loaded
TT3: Offline Loaded
TT4: Offline Loaded
TT5: Offline Loaded
TT6: Offline Loaded
TT7: Offline Loaded
TT10: Offline Loaded
TT11: Offline Loaded
TT12: Offline Loaded
TT13: Offline Loaded
VT0: Loaded
VT1: Loaded
RD0: Loaded
DK0: Loaded Type=RK05
DK1: Loaded Type=RK05
DK2: Loaded Type=RK05
DK3: Loaded Type=RK05
DK4: Loaded Type=RK05
DK5: Loaded Type=RK05
DK6: Loaded Type=RK05
DK7: Loaded Type=RK05
DU0: Loaded Type=RA81
DU1: Loaded Type=RA81
DU2: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
DU3: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
DU4: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
DU5: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
DU6: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
DU7: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
MU0: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
NL0: Loaded
ZA0: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZA1: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA2: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA3: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA4: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA5: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA6: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA7: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA10: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZA11: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZB0: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZB1: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZB2: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZB3: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZB4: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZB5: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZB6: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZB7: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZB10: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZB11: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
ZC0: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC1: Public Mounted Loaded Label=RSX11MPBL87 Type=UNKN
ZC2: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC3: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC4: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC5: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC6: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC7: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC10: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZC11: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD0: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD1: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD2: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD3: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD4: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD5: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD6: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD7: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD10: Loaded Type=UNKN
ZD11: Loaded Type=UNKN
TI0:
CO0: TT0:
CL0: TT0:
SP0: ZC1:
LB0: ZC1:
SY0: ZC1:
>
>MOU DK7:/FOR
>INS $FLX
>FLX DK7:/RT/DI
Directory DK7:
10-JUN-2021
SWAP .SYS 28. 31-OCT-1998
RT11SB.SYS 99. 02-OCT-2020
....
TDL0 .COM 1. 11-MAY-2021
TSYDL0.COM 1. 15-MAY-2021
SPEED5.SAV 8. 19-MAY-2021
< Unused > 583.
583. Free blocks
Total of 4179. blocks in 155. files
>MOU DK7:/FOR
>BAD DK7:/LI
PAR
SECPOL 117734 00120000 00100000 SEC POOL
SYSPAR 117670 00220000 00201000 MAIN
117624 00220000 00111300 RO COM !DIR11M!
117440 00331300 00004400 TASK <...LDR>
117240 00335700 00033500 TASK <MCR...>
117040 00371400 00010500 TASK [TKTN ]
116640 00402100 00003200 TASK [SHF...]
116440 00405300 00013500 TASK [RCT...]
DRVPAR 116360 00421000 00136200 MAIN
116314 00421000 00006300 RO COM !TTEXT !
116230 00427300 00036000 DRIVER (TT:)
115220 00465300 00001300 DRIVER (DK:)
115134 00466600 00005100 RO COM !PUCOM !
114024 00473700 00014000 DRIVER (DU:)
113450 00507700 00011500 DRIVER (MU:)
113240 00521400 00000100 DRIVER (NL:)
113174 00521500 00017700 DRIVER (VF:)
113130 00541400 00002500 DRIVER (VT:)
113064 00544100 00001500 DRIVER (RD:)
112004 00545600 00002300 DRIVER (ZA:)
110704 00550100 00002300 DRIVER (ZB:)
107604 00552400 00002300 DRIVER (ZC:)
106504 00554700 00002300 DRIVER (ZD:)
GEN 106420 00557200 17200600 MAIN
106354 00557200 00002000 RO COM !DYCOM !
060754 00561200 00007500 TASK <PMT...>
062324 00610700 00042500 TASK <HRC...>
065510 00653400 00001600 RW COM !ACD20 !
106060 00662200 00040000 RO COM !FCSRES!
061154 00730000 00011100 TASK <F11ACP>
106270 00741100 00034000 RO COM +F11ACP+
065620 00775100 00040300 TASK <PART0 >
105530 01054000 00057000 RO COM +...AT.+
105314 01133000 00023000 RO COM +...PIP+
062700 01203500 00037300 TASK <QMG...>
063520 01243000 00024500 TASK <SYSLOG>
064024 01267500 00050300 TASK <BAP0 >
064270 01413200 00200100 TASK <BRA >
064334 01613300 00200100 TASK <BRB >
065554 02013400 00200100 TASK <BRC >
061220 02213500 00071600 TASK <BADT0 >
>
BAD -- DK7: Total bad blocks= 0.
>
>BRU/INI/VER/MOU/MAX:300./HEAD:295. ZC1:[1,2] DK7:
BRU - This disk will not contain a hardware bootable system
BRU -- *WARNING* -- File IDs will not be preserved
PAR
SECPOL 117734 00120000 00100000 SEC POOL
SYSPAR 117670 00220000 00201000 MAIN
117624 00220000 00111300 RO COM !DIR11M!
117440 00331300 00004400 TASK <...LDR>
117240 00335700 00033500 TASK <MCR...>
117040 00371400 00010500 TASK [TKTN ]
116640 00402100 00003200 TASK [SHF...]
116440 00405300 00013500 TASK [RCT...]
DRVPAR 116360 00421000 00136200 MAIN
116314 00421000 00006300 RO COM !TTEXT !
116230 00427300 00036000 DRIVER (TT:)
115220 00465300 00001300 DRIVER (DK:)
115134 00466600 00005100 RO COM !PUCOM !
114024 00473700 00014000 DRIVER (DU:)
113450 00507700 00011500 DRIVER (MU:)
113240 00521400 00000100 DRIVER (NL:)
113174 00521500 00017700 DRIVER (VF:)
113130 00541400 00002500 DRIVER (VT:)
113064 00544100 00001500 DRIVER (RD:)
112004 00545600 00002300 DRIVER (ZA:)
110704 00550100 00002300 DRIVER (ZB:)
107604 00552400 00002300 DRIVER (ZC:)
106504 00554700 00002300 DRIVER (ZD:)
GEN 106420 00557200 17200600 MAIN
106354 00557200 00002000 RO COM !DYCOM !
060754 00561200 00007500 TASK <PMT...>
062324 00610700 00042500 TASK <HRC...>
065510 00653400 00001600 RW COM !ACD20 !
106060 00662200 00040000 RO COM !FCSRES!
061154 00730000 00011100 TASK <F11ACP>
106270 00741100 00034000 RO COM +F11ACP+
065620 00775100 00040300 TASK <PART0 >
105530 01054000 00057000 RO COM +...AT.+
105314 01133000 00023000 RO COM +...PIP+
062700 01203500 00037300 TASK <QMG...>
063520 01243000 00024500 TASK <SYSLOG>
064024 01267500 00050300 TASK <BAP0 >
064270 01413200 00200100 TASK <BRA >
064334 01613300 00200100 TASK <BRB >
065554 02013400 00200100 TASK <BRC >
061220 02213500 00200100 TASK <BRUT0 >
>
BRU - Starting verify pass
BRU - Completed
>CON DISPLAY ATTRIBUTES FOR SYSTEM
CON -- No device name matches select string "SYSTEM"
>CON DISPLAY ATTRIBUTES FOR SYS
SYS
PDP-11/84, EIS,UNIBUS_Map,D-Space,Cache,FPP,
Clock=KW11-L, $TKPS=50., $TTPRM=000002, Cache_control=000001
>
Testing in progress - Please wait
Memory Size is 4088 K Bytes
9 Step memory test
Step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Message 04 Entering Dialog mode
Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test.
Type a command then press the RETURN key: BOO ZB1
Trying ZB1
Starting system from ZB1
RT-11SB (S) V05.07
.R MSCPCK
.ini dl2:
DL2:/Initialize; Are you sure? Y
.cop/ver/sys/excl sy:*.dsk dl2:
Files copied:
SY:SWAP.SYS to DL2:SWAP.SYS
SY:RT11SB.SYS to DL2:RT11SB.SYS
SY:RT11FB.SYS to DL2:RT11FB.SYS
...
SY:GETMEM.SAV to DL2:GETMEM.SAV
SY:GETMEM.MAC to DL2:GETMEM.MAC
SY:GETMEM.OBJ to DL2:GETMEM.OBJ
SY:ROM.BIN to DL2:ROM.BIN
SY:TSYA10.COM to DL2:TSYA10.COM
SY:TDL0NL.COM to DL2:TDL0NL.COM
SY:TDL0.COM to DL2:TDL0.COM
SY:TSYDL0.COM to DL2:TSYDL0.COM
.cop/boo dl2:rt11zm dl2:
.
147250
@173000g
Testing in progress - Please wait
Memory Size is 4088 K Bytes
9 Step memory test
Step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Message 04 Entering Dialog mode
Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test.
Type a command then press the RETURN key: BOO DL2
Trying DL2
Starting system from DL2
RT-11ZM (S) V05.07
.TYPE V5USER.TXT
RT-11 V5.7
Installation of RT-11 Version 5.7 is complete and you are now running
RT-11 from your system volume.
Your system volume is your working volume if you have used the Automatic
Installation (AI) procedure. If you have installed RT-11 using that
procedure, Mentec recommends you verify the correct operation of your
system's software using the VERIFY verification procedure. You can only
perform VERIFY on the valid target (output) media you used for the AI
procedure. Run VERIFY before you run CONFIG. To run VERIFY, enter the
command:
IND VERIFY
You should read the file V5NOTE.TXT, which you can TYPE or PRINT. Also,
read the Introduction to RT-11, and the Installation Guide which
contain much of the information you need to use RT-11 Version 5.7.
.R MSCPCK
.sho all
RT-11ZM (S) V05.07
Booted from DL2:RT11ZM
22 bit addressing is on
USR is set NOSWAP
EXIT is set SWAP
KMON is set NOIND
RUN is set NOVBGEXE
MODE is set NOSJ
TT is set NOQUIET
ERROR is set ERROR
SL is set OFF
EDIT is set KEX
FORTRAN is set FORTRA
KMON nesting depth is 3
Global .SCCA flag is disabled
CLI is set DCL, CCL, UCL, NO UCF
PDP 11/83 Processor
4088KB of memory
Floating Point Accelerator Unit
Extended Instruction Set (EIS)
Memory Management Unit
Parity Memory
Cache Memory
PMI Memory
50 Hertz System Clock
Memory parity support
Global .SCCA support
FPU support
Extended unit support
Device Status CSR Vector(s)
------ ------ --- ---------
RK Not installed 177400 220
DL Resident 174400 160
DU Installed 172150 154
HX Installed 177560 000
ZA Installed 161014 350
ZB Installed 161054 354
ZC Installed 161114 360
ZD Installed 161154 364
ZE Not installed 161214 370
ZF Not installed 161254 374
WQ Not installed 177134 204
WS Not installed 177134 204
LD Installed 000000 000
VM Installed 177572 000
MU Not installed 174500 260
NL Installed 000000 000
SL Installed 000000 000
NQ Not installed 174440 120
TT (Resident)
DL (Resident)
DL2 = DK , SY
MQ (Resident)
HX
ZA
ZB
ZC
DU
VM
ZD
LD
NL
SL
15 free slots
Job Name Console Level State Low High Impure
--- ---- ------- ----- ----- --- ---- ------
0 RESORC 0 0 Run 000000 100564 115176
No multi-terminal support
------- Extended Memory --------
Address Module Words Type
------- ------ ----- ----
17760000 IOPAGE 4096. PRM HDW BYP
17760000 MEMTOP
00760000 VM 1966080. SHR
00220300 ...... 90016.
00205700 SL 2688. PVT
00163000 DU 4832. PVT
00160000 MCA 768. PRM
00000000 KERNEL 28672. PRM HDW
------ Low Memory -------
Address Module Words
------- ------ -----
155332 DL 659.
112630 RMON 8865.
100566 USR 2577.
001000 ..BG.. 16315.
LD0 is ZB3:S00.DSK[1950.] #
# Handler not loaded
.
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@173000g
Testing in progress - Please wait
Memory Size is 4088 K Bytes
9 Step memory test
Step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Message 04 Entering Dialog mode
Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test.
Type a command then press the RETURN key: BOO DL0
Trying DL0
Starting system from DL0
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 2044.KW System:"DE10 "
>RED DL:=SY:
>RED DL:=LB:
>RED DL:=SP:
>MOU DL0:"RSX11MPBL87"
>@DL:[1,2]STARTUP
>; PLEASE NOTE
>;
>; If you have not yet read the system release notes, please do so
>; now before attempting to perform a SYSGEN or to utilize the new
>; features of this system.
>;
>;
>* Please enter time and date (HH:MM DD-MMM-YYYY) [S]: 19:11 15-may-2021
>TIME 19:11 15-may-2021
>ACS SY:/BLKS=1024.
>CON ONLINE ALL
>ELI /LOG/LIM
>CLI /INIT=DCL/CTRLC/DPR="<15><12>/$ /"
>INS LB:[1,1]RMSRESAB.TSK/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS LB:[1,1]RMSLBL.TSK/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS LB:[1,1]RMSLBM.TSK/RON=YES/PAR=GEN
>INS $QMGCLI
>INS $QMGCLI/TASK=...PRI
>INS $QMGCLI/TASK=...SUB
>QUE /START:QMG
>INS $QMGPRT/TASK=PRT.../SLV=NO
>QUE LP0:/CR/NM
>START/ACCOUNTING
>CON ESTAT LP0:
>QUE BAP0:/BATCH
>QUE BAP0:/AS:BATCH
>@ <EOF>
>dev dl:
DL0: Public Mounted Loaded Label=RSX11MPBL87 Type=RL02
Seek_Optimization=Nearest:10.
DL1: Loaded Type=RL02
Seek_Optimization=Nearest:10.
DL2: Loaded Type=RL02
Seek_Optimization=Nearest:10.
DL3: Loaded Type=RL02
Seek_Optimization=Nearest:10.
>mou dl1:/for/nowr
>mou dl3:/for
>bru/ini/ver dl1: dl3:
MCR -- Task not in system
>ins $bru
>bru/ver/ini dl1: dl3:
BRU - Starting verify pass
19:15:54 Login failure INVALID USER TT4:
19:16:06 Login user SYSTEM [1,1] TT4:
BRU - Completed
>
19:19:30 Login user SYSTEM [1,1] TT1:
19:19:34 Logout user SYSTEM [1,1] TT1:
19:19:38 Logout user SYSTEM [1,1] TT4:
run shutup
>
RSX-11M-PLUS Shut down program
Enter minutes to wait before shutdown:
Reason for shutdown (<CR> for none):
OK to shutdown? [Y/N]: y
All further logins are disabled
15-MAY-2021 19:19 System is now shutting down -- DE10
QUE /STO:QMG
>
STOP/ACCOUNTING SHUTUP
19:19:59 SYSLOG -- 47. Exiting
@LB:[1,2]SHUTUP
>
>VCP DISCONNECT /ALL
>@ <EOF>
>
ELI /NOLOG
>
ACS DL0:/BLKS=0.
ACS -- Checkpoint file now inactive
>
DMO DL0:/DEV/LOCK=V
DMO -- System disk being dismounted
DMO -- SYSTEM dismounted from DL0: *** Final dismount initiated ***
19:20:01 *** DL0: -- Dismount complete
>
DMO DL1:/DEV/LOCK=V
19:20:06 *** DL1: -- Dismount complete
DMO -- TT0: dismounted from DL1: *** Final dismount initiated ***
>
DMO DL3:/DEV/LOCK=V
19:20:11 *** DL3: -- Dismount complete
DMO -- TT0: dismounted from DL3: *** Final dismount initiated ***
>
SHUTUP operation complete
126130
@173000G
Testing in progress - Please wait
Memory Size is 4088 K Bytes
9 Step memory test
Step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Message 04 Entering Dialog mode
Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test.
Type a command then press the RETURN key: BOO DL3
Trying DL3
Starting system from DL3
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 2044.KW System:"DE10 "
>RED DL3:=SY:
>RED DL3:=LB:
>RED DL3:=SP:
>MOU DL3:"RSX11MPBL87"
>@DL3:[1,2]STARTUP
>; PLEASE NOTE
>;
>; If you have not yet read the system release notes, please do so
>; now before attempting to perform a SYSGEN or to utilize the new
>; features of this system.
>;
>;
>* Please enter time and date (HH:MM DD-MMM-YYYY) [S]: ^Z
>@ <EOF>
>RUN SHUTUP
>
RSX-11M-PLUS Shut down program
Enter minutes to wait before shutdown:
Reason for shutdown (<CR> for none):
OK to shutdown? [Y/N]: Y
All further logins are disabled
30-MAR-1982 00:00 System is now shutting down -- DE10
@LB:[1,2]SHUTUP
>VCP DISCONNECT /ALL
>@ <EOF>
>
DMO DL3:/DEV/LOCK=V
DMO -- System disk being dismounted
DMO -- SYSTEM dismounted from DL3: *** Final dismount initiated ***
00:00:28 *** DL3: -- Dismount complete
>
SHUTUP operation complete
126130
I also really hope that everything is okay with him.I hope he is okay.
Will these ROM's work in an 11/23+ or an 11/53? Do you know what it uses for a PAR and where the 2nd window is mapped to?There are multiple boot rom versions for the 11/23+ (KDF-11B) - early ones just prompt "START?" later versions and bug fixes are more interactive.
The most friendly and universal bootstrap I have found is the Camintonn version of an MXV11-B bootstrap - boots anything, works on 11/23 and 11/73 and does the memory map faster than the DEC ROMS - but also prompts ">>>" at reset, unlike the MXV11-B ROMS, which are silent unless you hammer <Ctrl-C> or wait ages for autoboot to fail...
I use the roms in the JMDHUSE bootstrap board in two systems and they are great...
Robin
View attachment 1288914
HC gives:
View attachment 1288915
They are for an MXV11-B or emulation - the 11/23+ is a BDV emulation and the 11/53 already has a decent bootstrap with similar features.Will these ROM's work in an 11/23+ or an 11/53? Do you know what it uses for a PAR and where the 2nd window is mapped to?