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Looking for KayPro 16 boot/system/MSDOS floppy

Skypilota72

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My device ran fine for many years, but now it’s getting a boot file error. My problem is that I cannot locate the system disk to perform an LLF and restore system files.

Where can I buy the boot system file disk?…. I don’t need all the other floppies as I still have them.
 

ldkraemer

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You can download them from https://www.mrynet.com/kaypro/software.html
It is an ftp download. Once you have the K16AS1.TD0 file you can create an .IMD file
for Imagedisk ver 1.18 by Dave Dunfield. You can also use Dave's Utilities for
Imagedisk (TD02IMD, IMDA, and IMDU) to create the .IMD, .RAW, and .TXT files.

I've created those files and they are at https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZh2LoXZNAhgSFBbnVkobbVh6N6ATBbc1Fgk

Now, you just need to write K16AS1.xxx to floppy with the method of your choice described in the README.1st. Then boot the floppy
and see if you can sysgen Drive C: from the floppy. Don't blow it away until you try a sysgen. Even if the hard drive doesn't boot the
files can be retrieved from the hard drive so you don't loose them. I'd boot from Floppy, then do a DIR C: and see if that works fine.
If it does you can try to sysgen C:.

Larry
 
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Skypilota72

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You can download them from https://www.mrynet.com/kaypro/software.html
It is an ftp download. Once you have the K16AS1.TD0 file you can create an .IMD file
for Imagedisk ver 1.18 by Dave Dunfield. You can also use Dave's Utilities for
Imagedisk (TD02IMD, IMDA, and IMDU) to create the .IMD, .RAW, and .TXT files.

I've created those files and they are at https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZh2LoXZNAhgSFBbnVkobbVh6N6ATBbc1Fgk

Now, you just need to write K16AS1.xxx to floppy with the method of your choice described in the README.1st. Then boot the floppy
and see if you can sysgen Drive C: from the floppy. Don't blow it away until you try a sysgen. Even if the hard drive doesn't boot the
files can be retrieved from the hard drive so you don't loose them. I'd boot from Floppy, then do a DIR C: and see if that works fine.
If it does you can try to sysgen C:.

Larry
You can download them from https://www.mrynet.com/kaypro/software.html
It is an ftp download. Once you have the K16AS1.TD0 file you can create an .IMD file
for Imagedisk ver 1.18 by Dave Dunfield. You can also use Dave's Utilities for
Imagedisk (TD02IMD, IMDA, and IMDU) to create the .IMD, .RAW, and .TXT files.

I've created those files and they are at https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZh2LoXZNAhgSFBbnVkobbVh6N6ATBbc1Fgk

Now, you just need to write K16AS1.xxx to floppy with the method of your choice described in the README.1st. Then boot the floppy
and see if you can sysgen Drive C: from the floppy. Don't blow it away until you try a sysgen. Even if the hard drive doesn't boot the
files can be retrieved from the hard drive so you don't loose them. I'd boot from Floppy, then do a DIR C: and see if that works fine.
If it does you can try to sysgen C:.

Larry
Thanks Larry for your response and received downloads. I am somewhat aware of those with early PC's who could create boot diskettes with proprietary software. Unfortunately my KayPro's (I own both a KP-16 and a KP-1) are the only non-mac machines I have, and the Macs are late models, so I have no functional way to create/transfer the media onto the disks. I wish there was a local users group as they would no doubt have the older tech to assist in accomplishing this.

Terrence
 

ldkraemer

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Terrence,
Don't forget that the Amatuer Radio Groups (HAMS) have Technicians that would likely have an older
DOS Computer that could be used to create your Floppy(s). The American Radio Relay League (ARRL)
should have a listing of local HAMS in your area. I forget exactly where to find that listing.

Larry
 

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Terrence,
I mounted the .RAW (Image file) in Debian and got a Directory Listing.

Code:
 $ sudo losetup --find --show K16AS1.RAW

 /dev/loop0
 sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt
             
 $ cd /
 $ cd mnt
 $ ls -alt

 2176 Feb  1  1985 AUTOSTAR.BAT
  128 Jan 31  1985 AUTOFMT.DRV
  128 Jan 31  1985 AUTOEXEC.BAT
 8192 Jan 28  1985 IO.SYS
 1632 Jan 18  1985 SORT.EXE
 4506 Jan 18  1985 PRINT.COM
 2498 Jan 18  1985 SYS.COM
 7020 Jan 18  1985 FORMAT.COM
 2994 Jan 12  1985 DISKCOMP.COM
 3510 Jan 12  1985 DISKCOPY.COM
  128 Jan 11  1985 USEREXEC.BAT
 5260 Dec 28  1984 FDISK.COM
  658 Dec 27  1984 GRAPHICS.COM
 3552 Dec 21  1984 D.COM
15728 Nov 13  1984 BACKUP.EXE
15792 Nov 13  1984 RESTORE.EXE
 5386 Oct 10  1984 MODE.COM
 2501 Aug 30  1984 ANSI.SYS
 2731 Aug 10  1984 COMP.COM
11264 Jun 26  1984 ASSIGN.EXE
16318 May 22  1984 TREE.EXE
17176 May 16  1984 MSDOS.SYS
15957 Nov 10  1983 COMMAND.COM
12223 Oct 19  1983 DEBUG.COM
42330 Oct 19  1983 LINK.EXE
 4364 Oct 19  1983 MORE.COM
 2295 Oct 19  1983 RECOVER.COM
 2585 Oct 19  1983 FC.EXE
 6331 Oct 19  1983 FIND.EXE
 1649 Oct 19  1983 EXE2BIN.EXE
 6468 Oct 19  1983 CHKDSK.COM
 8080 Oct 19  1983 EDLIN.COM

 $ cd /
             
 $ sudo umount /dev/loop0
 $ sudo losetup --detach /dev/loop0
 $ exit

Larry
 

Skypilota72

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Terrence,
I mounted the .RAW (Image file) in Debian and got a Directory Listing.

Code:
 $ sudo losetup --find --show K16AS1.RAW

 /dev/loop0
 sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt
            
 $ cd /
 $ cd mnt
 $ ls -alt

 2176 Feb  1  1985 AUTOSTAR.BAT
  128 Jan 31  1985 AUTOFMT.DRV
  128 Jan 31  1985 AUTOEXEC.BAT
 8192 Jan 28  1985 IO.SYS
 1632 Jan 18  1985 SORT.EXE
 4506 Jan 18  1985 PRINT.COM
 2498 Jan 18  1985 SYS.COM
 7020 Jan 18  1985 FORMAT.COM
 2994 Jan 12  1985 DISKCOMP.COM
 3510 Jan 12  1985 DISKCOPY.COM
  128 Jan 11  1985 USEREXEC.BAT
 5260 Dec 28  1984 FDISK.COM
  658 Dec 27  1984 GRAPHICS.COM
 3552 Dec 21  1984 D.COM
15728 Nov 13  1984 BACKUP.EXE
15792 Nov 13  1984 RESTORE.EXE
 5386 Oct 10  1984 MODE.COM
 2501 Aug 30  1984 ANSI.SYS
 2731 Aug 10  1984 COMP.COM
11264 Jun 26  1984 ASSIGN.EXE
16318 May 22  1984 TREE.EXE
17176 May 16  1984 MSDOS.SYS
15957 Nov 10  1983 COMMAND.COM
12223 Oct 19  1983 DEBUG.COM
42330 Oct 19  1983 LINK.EXE
 4364 Oct 19  1983 MORE.COM
 2295 Oct 19  1983 RECOVER.COM
 2585 Oct 19  1983 FC.EXE
 6331 Oct 19  1983 FIND.EXE
 1649 Oct 19  1983 EXE2BIN.EXE
 6468 Oct 19  1983 CHKDSK.COM
 8080 Oct 19  1983 EDLIN.COM

 $ cd /
            
 $ sudo umount /dev/loop0
 $ sudo losetup --detach /dev/loop0
 $ exit

Larry
Thank you

Terrence
 
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