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Xt-ide on ibm eduquest finally cracked

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My friends, I have finally solved the problem with XT-IDE cards not working with IBM Eduquest computers and am happily booting it from my 8Gb cf card and playing all my old dos favorites.
I found someone who had an Eduquest 50 for sale for cheap and of course the first thing i did was remove the 80Mb hard drive and install my XT-IDE and CF into it.. NOPE! I quickly found that no matter what i did, the computer would simply refuse to see and boot from the XT-IDE card.. WHY GOD WHY??? After searching the internet and finding others simply unable to get it to work i studied it a bit more... Then finally it hit me..


The IBM Eduquest line of computers simply WILL NOT accept any other boot room as a primary because it ALREADY has dos built-in on a rom in U39 on the PCB. seen here http://www.walshcomptech.com/ps2/eqm40.htm

In bios setup you can select between boot order consisting of Floppy, Fixed Disk, network, and boot rom. The first thing i tried was to remove the rom in U39 and then see if it would try booting from the XT-IDE and NOPE. It still expects to see the rom THERE and will look no where else.. Looking at that dos rom in U39 i realized it had the same pinout as the boot rom on the XT-IDE card and figured "What the hell, lets see what happens" and removed the dos rom from U39 and installed the XT-IDE rom into U39, booted to bios settings, and set the boot order to Floppy, Dos rom, Network, Fixed disk, and then saved and rebooted.

Now at this point, I dont even have the XT-IDE card installed, i'm just trying it for the hell of it with the XT-IDE bios installed into U39 on the Eduquest motherboard..
It goes through the memory count, a 221 error quickly flashes on the screen, then the next screen i see is the XT-IDE BOOT PROCESS and it is looking for a device at 300h... (Gratuitous happy dance at this point)

I quickly turned the Eduquest back off and installed the now "ROM-LESS" XT-IDE card back in and connect my CF card to it and turn the computer back on and it boots and then reads from the CF card as if the rom was still on the XT-IDE card and boots to the dos prompt..
Next i installed my Soundblaster AWE64 ISA card with 32Mb wavetable addon and started playing doom on it.. I can post some pics if yall wanna see and plan on making a Youtube Video showing it working with how to steps very shortly.

I really thought i was going to have to throw in the towel on this one.. damn im happy right now =) Next upgrade will be an Overdrive processor in the 487 socket to give the 486 SX/33 something to look up to lol ;)


This should surely help breathe new life into The Eduquest Line of IBM's!
 
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Thanks for posting about this! I have an eduquest forty-five, and while the HD works fine, I'd like to expand out the hard drive at some point - this info is now filed away!
 
I have to say even though this is an old topic and my intent is not to revive it, here was my experience.

I have an Eduquest Thirty. As reported the system has both a DOS ROM and a ROM disk. I have a Glitchworks XTIDE. I simply removed the DOS and ROM Disk ROMs but left the ROM in its socket on the XTIDE card and it simply works.
 
First: I even never heard of a Eduquest until I read this thread.

I just wonder: these Eduquest 30 and 40 machines, being 286+, should be able to handle IDE-HDDs directly IMHO. So why is the XTIDE card still needed?
 
Ruud said:
First: I even never heard of a Eduquest until I read this thread.

I just wonder: these Eduquest 30 and 40 machines, being 286+, should be able to handle IDE-HDDs directly IMHO. So why is the XTIDE card still needed?
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Because the original BIOS is limited to 528MB and even though it supposedly has auto detect, it often doesn’t work and you have to enter the drive geometry manually. Also for things like CF cards they can be powered through the IDE connector if there is 5v there. Many OE IDE connectors lack the 5V pin. So in my case the CF card is being run off the IDE and the power connector is left free for other uses. Also if you wanted to add more hard disks you would need more controller cards anyway. The XTIDE BiOS is great.
 
So I've been doing more experimentation. On my Eduquesto model 30, I actually found the XTIDE is fully compatible with the DOS ROM and ROM DISK in place. I cant' say whether this would be the case for the later models, but on my Eduquest 30, everything just works. However I do disable the setting for the onboard IDE or it will set a fault when it doesn't detect a hard drive on the built in bus that isn't being used.
 
So a follow up. I now have an Eduquest 40 as well and it has the same built in BIOS limitations. But by installing an XTIDE and disabling the shadow ROM and the fixed disk, the XTIDE takes over and I’m running a 2GB CF card instead. Even if I disable the disk if the shadow ROM is enabled it conflicts.
 
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