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apple ii europlus - worth getting a language card? and will a iie enhanced board fit?

Iainjh

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hi

i have a europlus with the standard 48k. monochrome pal output unfortunately.

I've also got a iie enhanced, so the europlus is more of a curiosity at the moment... and wondering if worth expanding in any way. is it worth getting a 16k language card for it, any useful benefit beyond being able to run pascal etc, more games that will run on it etc? ive booted bruce lee and a couple games that worked ok.. will a language card make much of a difference? any recommendation welcome.

also- will a iie enhanced motherboard work in a ii europlus case and keyboard? as it seems cheaper to find a iie board than expand this one..

thx for thoughts and options!
 

NeXT

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The language card just ups the RAM. Beyond that it's still an Apple II+.

I would suggest against board swapping with a IIe as any of the pre-IIe machines are not as common as IIe's which are extremely cheap and plentiful. Just find another IIe and call it good.
 

MarkO_

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Because of the Age and Quantities of the Apple ][s and ][+s, I would keep the EuroPlus AS IS.. Except Add the Language Card, because you can Run PASCAL, or even ProDOS, or Load Integer BASIC. Many of the ][s and ][+s had Language Cards, so it would still be considered, "authentic".

Buy another ][e for you Mods and Hacks..

I have one Apple ][, one ][+ ( that came to me with a Rev-01 Mother Board ), and 9 Apple ][es.... And a couple ][gs...

MarkO
 

Iainjh

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yes you are right, no point butchering it. good info re the keyboard.. I do wish it had color though!

But worth getting a language card. but, so prodos wont work on 48k? what dos will it run? I need to get a super serial card also really for atdpro... anyone has spare lang card and super serial, please do msg me ;)

thank you all
 

MarkO_

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yes you are right, no point butchering it. good info re the keyboard.. I do wish it had color though!

But worth getting a language card. but, so prodos wont work on 48k? what dos will it run? I need to get a super serial card also really for atdpro... anyone has spare lang card and super serial, please do msg me ;)

thank you all


DOS 3.3 ( or 3.2 ) will run fine on 48K.. ProDOS needs 64K, so you will need that to run ADTPro, and the Super Serial Card or the new Uthernet II card..

MarkO
 

Mr Pete

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Hi, as a tag to this subject is the best way to increase the ram of the sock 48kB Apple II plus to add a Language card? And by best I mean cheapest?

Peter
 

barrym95838

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Hi, as a tag to this subject is the best way to increase the ram of the sock 48kB Apple II plus to add a Language card? And by best I mean cheapest?

Peter

I'm not much of a hardware guy, but I believe that a language card is the most viable way to bump your ][ or ][+ to 64K. In fact, it's the ONLY way I can imagine at the moment, unless you are willing to perform motherboard surgery.

Mike B.
 
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