CP/M floppy trying to transfer using 22DISK

[ablaka]

I have 5.25 by Elephant No 92-170 double sided double density soft sector Dennison Carter that needs to be transferred to Windows 10
Have Windows 98 with 22DISK running, while selecting in the menu type of diskette can find the right one. Advise will be approciated
here is list from 22DISK Menu:

A1 Generic CP/M - SSSD 8"
ABC1 ABC-80 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ABD1 A. B. Dick Magna III - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ACT1 Actrix (Access Matrix) - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ADL1 Adler Textriter - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ADV1 Advanced Digital Super 6 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ADV3 Advanced Digital Super 6 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ADV5 Advanced Digital TurboDOS 312K - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ALT5 Altos Series 5 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
AMI1 Amigo - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
AMP1 Ampro - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
AMP3 Ampro - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
AMS1 Amstrad PCW8256 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ARC1 Archive I - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ARC2 Archive II & III - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ARI1 Arisia - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ATR1 ATR-8000 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
AVA1 Avatar - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BEE1 Beehive - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BEE2 Beehive Microbee - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BIT1 Bitelex - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BMC1 BMC IF800 Model 20 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BON1 Bondwell 12 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BON2 Bondwell 14 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
BUR1 Burr-Brown - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CAL1 Cal-PC - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CAS1 Cashcom 100 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
CAS2 Casio FP-1100/FP-1020 - DSDD 48tpi 5.25"
CCS1 CCS (256 bytes/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CCS2 CCS (512 bytes/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CCS3 CCS (1024 bytes/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CDI1 CDI-5000 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CMC1 CMC Supersystem 2 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
COL1 Coleco ADAM, 40 track - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
COM1 Compis - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
COM2 Compugraphic MCS-5 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
COM3 Compustar Model 30 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
COM4 Compupro (Viasyn) (1024 bytes/sector) - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
CRO1 Cromemco CDOS - SSSD 48 tpi 5.25"
CRO3 Cromemco CDOS - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CRO6 Cromemco CP/M - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CWP1 C/WP Cortex - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
CYK1 Cykey - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
DAT1 Datavue DV80 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
DAT2 Datavue DV80 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
DEC1 DEC DECMate II - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
DEC2 DEC Rainbow - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
DEC3 DEC VT-180 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
DIG1 Digilog - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
DIG2 Digilog 1500 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
DIR1 Direct 1025 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
DIS1 Discovery - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
EAG1 Eagle II - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
EAG2 Eagle III - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
EPS1 Epson QX-10 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
EPS2 Epson QX-10 (256 bytes/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
EPS3 Epson PX-8 - DSDD 3.5"
ERI1 Ericsson DTC - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ERI2 Ericsson DTC2 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ERI3 Ericsson Step One - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
FLO1 Florida Graphics - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
FOR1 Formula 1 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
FUJ1 Fujitsu Micro 16 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
FUJ2 Fujitsu Micro 8 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
GNA1 Gnat System 10 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
HCL1 HCL System 2 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
HEA1 Heath H89, Magnolia CP/M - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
HEA3 Heath H89, Magnolia CP/M - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
HEU1 Heurikon MLZ-91A - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
HP1 Hewlett-Packard HP 86, 87, 125 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IBM1 IBM PC, CP/M-86 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IBM2 IBM PC, CP/M-86 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IMS1 IMS 5000 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IMS2 IMS 5000 TurboDOS - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
INT1 Intel iPDS 100 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
INS1 Insight Enterprises - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ITH1 Ithaca Intersystems - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
JET1 Jet-80 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
KAY1 Kaypro II/2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
KAY2 Kaypro 2X/4/10 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
KAY3 Kaypro, Pro-8 ROM - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
KON1 Kontron - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
LEX1 Lexoriter - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
LOB1 Lobo Max-80 (256 bytes/sector) - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
LOB3 Lobo Max-80 (512 bytes/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
LOB4 Lobo Max-80 (512 bytes/sector) - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
LNW1 LNW 2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MAC1 Macsym 150 - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
MAG1 Magic - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MAI1 MAI Basic Four - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
MIC2 Micromint SB180 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MIC3 Micron Quark - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
HP1 Hewlett-Packard HP 86, 87, 125 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IBM1 IBM PC, CP/M-86 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IBM2 IBM PC, CP/M-86 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IMS1 IMS 5000 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
IMS2 IMS 5000 TurboDOS - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
INT1 Intel iPDS 100 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
INS1 Insight Enterprises - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ITH1 Ithaca Intersystems - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
JET1 Jet-80 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
KAY1 Kaypro II/2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
KAY2 Kaypro 2X/4/10 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
KAY3 Kaypro, Pro-8 ROM - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
KON1 Kontron - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
LEX1 Lexoriter - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
LOB1 Lobo Max-80 (256 bytes/sector) - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
LOB3 Lobo Max-80 (512 bytes/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
LOB4 Lobo Max-80 (512 bytes/sector) - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
LNW1 LNW 2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MAC1 Macsym 150 - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
MAG1 Magic - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MAI1 MAI Basic Four - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
MIC2 Micromint SB180 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MIC3 Micron Quark - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MIC5 Micro Source M6000 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MOL1 Molecular Series 9 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MOL2 Molecular/Durango Poppy 54 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
MON1 Monroe 8800 Series - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
MOR1 Morrow MD2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MOR2 Morrow MD3, 5, 11, 16, 34 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
MOR6 Morrow TurboDOS - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
NCR1 NCR Decision Mate V - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
NCR2 NCR FirstStep - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
NEC1 NEC PC-8001A - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
NEC3 NEC PC 8801A/8831A - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
NEC4 NEC PC 8500/8431A, Starlet - DSDD 3.5"
NIA1 Niat - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
NIX1 Nixdorf 8810/30 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
OKI1 OKI IF800 Model 20 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OLI1 Olivetti ETV300 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OLI2 Olivetti M20 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OLI3 Olivetti 250 - SSDD 3.5"
OLY1 Olympia EX-100 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OLY2 Olympia ETX II - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB1 Osborne 1 - SSSD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB2 Osborne 1 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB3 Osborne Executive - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB4 Osborne G2 System - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB5 Osborne G2 System - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
OSB6 Osborne 1 + Osmosis - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
OSB7 Osborne Nuevo - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB8 Osborne Vixen - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OSB9 Osborne Executive w/Z3 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
OSM1 OSM Zeus 4 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
OTR1 Otrona Attache - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
OTR2 Otrona Attache - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
PAN1 Panasonic KX-E828 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
PEG1 Pegasus Data Logger - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
PHI1 Philips PC-2010 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
PHI3 Philips PC-3000 - 3004 - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
PIE1 Pied Piper - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
PMC1 PMC Micromate - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
PRO2 Proglas 770KB - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ROY1 Royal Alphatronic - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SAG1 Sage IV - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SAG2 Sage IV - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
SAN1 Sanyo MBC-1000, MBC-1150 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SAN2 Sanyo MBC-1250 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
SEE1 Seequa Chameleon - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SEI1 Seiko - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"

SHL1 Shelton SIG/NET 2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SHA1 Sharp MZ-80 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SIE1 Siemens PG-685 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
SIE2 Siemens PG-675 DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SIE3 Siemens PG-635 DSDD 3.5"
SOR1 Sorbus TurboDOS - 5.25" DSHD (or 8" DSDD)
SPE1 Spectravideo SV-328 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SPE2 Sperry UTS 30, UTS 5000 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
SUP1 Superbrain JR - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SUP2 Superbrain 40 track - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SUP3 Superbrain QD - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SYS2 Systel 2 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
SYS3 Systel 3 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TEK1 Tektronix 4170 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TEL2 Teletek Systemaster - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TEL3 Televideo 801, 806 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TEL4 Televideo 1603 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
TI1 TI Professional, CP/M-86 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TOS1 Toshiba T100, T200 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRS1 TRS-80 Model 1, Omikron CP/M - SSSD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRS3 TRS-80 Model 1, Color Power II - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRS7 TRS-80, Holmes CP/M - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRS8 TRS-80, MM CP/M - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRS9 TRS-80 Model 4, MT CP/M - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRSA TRS-80 Model 4, MT CP/M - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRSB TRS-80 Model 4 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
TRSC TRS-80 Model 3, Hurricane CP/M - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
VEC1 Vector 4 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
VIS1 Visual 1050 - SSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
WAN1 Wangwriter - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
WAV1 Wave Mate Bullet - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
XER1 Xerox (512 byte/sector) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
XER2 Xerox 820 - SSSD 48 tpi 5.25"
XER3 Xerox 820 II - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
XER4 Xerox 820-II and 16/8 (EM II) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
XER7 XEROX 16/8, EM-II (Standalone) - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
XOR1 Xor 5 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
XYZ1 XYZ - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZEN1 Zenith Z-37 Disk - SSSD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZEN2 Zenith Z-37 Disk - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ZEN3 Zenith Z89, Heath H89 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZEN4 Zenith Z89, Heath H89 - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"
ZEN5 Zenith Z90 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZEN6 Zenith Z90 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZEN7 Zenith Z-100 - SSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZEN8 Zenith Z-100 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZOR1 Zorba - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25"
ZOR2 Zorba - DSDD 96 tpi 5.25"

 

[ajacocks]

Welcome to the forum @ablaka .

I've not heard of Dennison Carter. Do you know what kind of disk controller is installed in the machine?

Thanks!
- Alex

 

[krebizfan]

Have you checked what the disk format shows up under Anadisk? It is another tool from the same publisher which could determine the specifics of the format.

 

[ldkraemer]

If you have the actual CP/M Computer handy you can get the Disk Parameter Block (DPB)
Information, and with that you can create your own Definition for 22DISK. If you have
a floppy image you can contact Chuck(G), and he may create the definition for you.

Larry

 

[ablaka]

If you have the actual CP/M Computer handy you can get the Disk Parameter Block (DPB)
Information, and with that you can create your own Definition for 22DISK. If you have
a floppy image you can contact Chuck(G), and he may create the definition for you.

Larry

Unfortunately I dont

 

[GeoffB17]

Hm, I've got a somewhat larger version of the CPMDISKS definition file that you show, and there's nothing like 'Dennison Carter' in that.

Is there any other text on the floppy disk or the pocket?

Yes, if you've got ANADISK that could help determine what the actual parameters should be, but it's a fairly specialised task to work back from the disk to the definitions, but the doc file in 22DISK does give advice on how to do this.

'Dennison Carter' may not be the correct name for the destination system. Or, if it's NOT actually CP/M?? ANADISK would tell you that.

Elephant and 92-170 prob relates to distributor of the actual disk, I think that 'brand' was used by a number of different distribs?

Where are you in the world?

Geoff

 

[Chuck(G)]

"Elephant" was like "Brown" and a number of off-brands for floppies. Many have not survived.

 

[GeoffB17]

@ablaka,

Not sure how far you might get with your W98 machine, but maybe...?

You might try a different piece of software, IMD (Image Disk) from ? Dunford. If you have the disk, and your W98 machine has a suitable 5.25" fd, then maybe you could use IMD to make an image of the disk as you will not need to know the parameters at this stage.

do NOT * WRITE * anything to the floppy disk, save any image file you can create to the HD.

IMD has an optional 'compress' facility, do NOT use this.

If you can get this to work, you can then post (attach) the image created, then this can be looked at and some here will be able to tell a LOT more about what is on the disk, what options might be available, and maybe even what parameters for 22DISK to use.

Note that none of these systems will work on the W10 machine, so something will need to be worked out for that step.

Geoff

 

[Chuck(G)]

If the OP is still around, he can send me an IMD of the disk he's trying to work with.
I will note that 22Disk, like IMD does not work well (or sometime at all) on a Windows system in GUI mode. You need to shutdown to the MS-DOS prompt (i.e. real mode).