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HP Logic Analyzers - HP Pre-Processor Modules - HP Inverse Assembler

nikola-wan

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I started this thread because I just received a set of HP Pre-Processor Modules and General Purpose Pod Interface for my HP 1630A and 16500B logic analyzers.

I have three General Purpose Interfaces for the Pre-Processor Modules:

  1. HP 10269A General Purpose Probe Interface, for HP 1630A/D Logic Analyzers
  2. HP 10269B General Purpose Probe Interface, for HP 1630A/D/G Logic Analyzers
  3. HP 10269C General Purpose Probe Interface, for HP 1650A, 1651A and HP 16500A/B and 16510A Logic Analyzers, with Operating Note, August 1987

Here is the list of HP pre-processor pods I have:

  1. HP Model 10269A General Purpose Interface, with Service Brief 10269-90901, printed December 1982
  2. HP Model 64683A Z80 Interface Module, with Service Brief 64683-90901, printed January 1983
  3. HP Model 64655A 8085 Interface Module, with Service Brief 64655-90903, printed January 1983
  4. HP Model 64653A 8086/8088 Dedicated Interface Card, with Service Brief 64653-90904, printed February 1983
  5. HP Model 64670A 68000 Interface Card, with Service Brief 64670-90901, printed December 1982
  6. HP Model 64681A Z8001 Interface Module, with Service Brief 64681-90903, printed January 1983
  7. HP Model 64672A 6800/02 Interface Module, with Service Brief 64672-90901, printed September 1983
  8. HP Model 10320C User Definable Interface, with Operating Manual, September 1987
  9. HP Model 50601A/002 AD & I 8031 Preprocessor with QFP cable, no docs

I also have HP mini data cassette tapes for the HP 82161A Digital Cassette Drive with HP-IL (standard interface on HP 1630 logic analyzer) that are labelled as holding the inverse assembler software for the 8086/88, Z8001/02, 6800/02, and 68000.

I will be scanning all the docs and posting links in this thread.

Here is a photo of my collection of modules, tapes and manuals:

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Nice collection. I have a similar 646xx preprocessor collection minus the 64681A Z8001 preprocessor. I also have a 64671A 10308B 6809 / 6809E preprocessor.

Here is a link to my PDF searchable scan of the HP Model 64672A 6800/6802 Interface Module Service Guide, 64672-90901, dated September 1983:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ae3H-hqxaFyeVzppTpUGAwbT5exMAehq/view?usp=sharing

Quick work providing a nice quality scan. Thanks.

Sometime I'll have to see if I can figure out how to feed a sequence of signals into the 6800/6802 preprocessor to extract the contents of the three PROMs without desoldering them.
 

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Nice collection. I have a similar 646xx preprocessor collection minus the 64681A Z8001 preprocessor. I also have a 64671A 10308B 6809 / 6809E preprocessor.



Quick work providing a nice quality scan. Thanks.

Sometime I'll have to see if I can figure out how to feed a sequence of signals into the 6800/6802 preprocessor to extract the contents of the three PROMs without desoldering them.

Thanks.

I see that one of the PROMs is socketed on my 6800 module. Would it be easier to just unsolder the other two and try to read them on a programmer?

One of the docs I received was an 'Appendix I' for the 6809/6809E module and 'Appendix J' for the 80188/80186 module. These appendixes include operation, but not schematics. The 6809 section helped me set up the ADDR, DATA and STAT configurations so I could load the 6800 inverse assembler into the 1630A logic analyzer from tape.

Here is the 6809 signal list:

Pod 4 J CLK
Pod 4 K CLK (I didn't configure either of those manually)

ADDR A0-A8 Pod 2 0 to 8
ADDR A9-A15 Pod 3 0 to 6
DATA D0-D8 Pod 1 0 to 7
STAT Pod 4 - I configured bits 0 to 3, their table shows all 8 bits are used for the 6809 inverse assembler

I'll scan this appendix next
 
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Thanks.

I see that one of the PROMs is socketed on my 6800 module. Would it be easier to just unsolder the other two and try to read them on a programmer?

One of the docs I received was an 'Appendix I' for the 6809/6809E module and 'Appendix J' for the 80188/80186 module. These appendixes include operation, but not schematics. The 6809 section helped me set up the ADDR, DATA and STAT configurations so I could load the 6800 inverse assembler into the 1630A logic analyzer from tape.

I'll have to look at my 6800/6802 preprocessor and see if any of the PROMs are in sockets. If they are that would be the easiest way to dump their contents.

I also have an original copy of 'Appendix I' for the 6809/6809E module and 'Appendix J' for the 80188/80186 module that I never got around to scanning.

I also have an original copy of Helwett-Packard Model 64671A 6809/6809E Interface Module Service Brief, 64671-90901, December 1983. That includes a schematic. I'll have to scan that one sometime.
 

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New document - Service Brief for HP 10269A General Purpose Interface for HP 1630A/D Logic Analyzers:

HP Model 10269A General Purpose Interface, Service Brief 10269-090901, December 1982

From this document, I should be able to create a POD connection table for the 10269B General Purpose Interface for HP 1630A/D/G Logic Analyzers, by looking at the decals on top of the 10269B.

Do you not have a copy of this one?

Hewlett-Packard Model 10269A General Purpose Interface
First Printing, December 1982, 10269-90902
Second Edition, January 1983, 10269-90903
Third Edition, July 1983, 10269-90904
Fourth Edition, October 1983, 10269-90905

I have an original copy of the Fourth Edition, October 1983, 10269-90905 version.

It includes these to go along with the Appendix I and Appendix J supplement you have:
Appendix A: Interface Module Z80
Appendix B: Interface Module 68000
Appendix C: Interface Module 8085
Appendix D: Interface Module Z8001/Z8002
Appendix E: Interface Module 8086/8088
Appendix F: Model 10269A Options for Making a User Definable Interface
Appendix G: Interface Module 6800/6802
Appendix H: Interface Module NSC800

Those include the module specific POD format specifications for the 1630 series analyzers.

I'll have to scan that one when I have time. I haven't found a copy online anywhere.
 

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Do you not have a copy of this one?

Hewlett-Packard Model 10269A General Purpose Interface
First Printing, December 1982, 10269-90902
Second Edition, January 1983, 10269-90903
Third Edition, July 1983, 10269-90904
Fourth Edition, October 1983, 10269-90905

I have an original copy of the Fourth Edition, October 1983, 10269-90905 version.

It includes these to go along with the Appendix I and Appendix J supplement you have:
Appendix A: Interface Module Z80
Appendix B: Interface Module 68000
Appendix C: Interface Module 8085
Appendix D: Interface Module Z8001/Z8002
Appendix E: Interface Module 8086/8088
Appendix F: Model 10269A Options for Making a User Definable Interface
Appendix G: Interface Module 6800/6802
Appendix H: Interface Module NSC800

Those include the module specific POD format specifications for the 1630 series analyzers.

I'll have to scan that one when I have time. I haven't found a copy online anywhere.

No - I don't have any of the newer versions of the 10269A documents. I would think scanning the Fourth Edition and Appendixes would be fine.

I entered the 6800 configuration screenshots from your eevblog post on the Inverse Assembler, saved the logic analyzer state, then was able to load it back successfully, although I had to manually edit the User Symbol table on my 16500B to select Binary mode. Were these the only STAT symbols for the non-preprocessor version of the 6800 IA? I see sixteen different STAT symbols in the 6800 Service Brief.
 

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I used the HP 82161A HP-IL Cassette Drive and a couple of HP-IL cables on EBAY, and was able to load a 6800 Inverse Assembler into my HP 1630A.

I also purchased a "PIL Box" http://www.jeffcalc.hp41.eu/hpil/#pilbox and hooked it up today to try to capture the Inverse Assembler files.

I used the ilPer program to 'scope' the HP-IL messages, while doing a tape file copy.

I could easily see that the file data was continous DAB xx hex output, so used Notepad++ to edit out everything but the Hex characters, then used a HEX to Binary file conversion online tool to create the binary files. I then checked each of those binary files with HxD and they appear to be IA program files.

I haven't figured out how to get my PC to use the PIL Box to emulate a tape - instead of the HP 82161A cassette drive, nor figured out how to put these files into a format to use with the PIL box, but I'll do some more experiments.

Here is a link to my zip of the IA files that I believe will work with HP 1630 series logic analyzers. I have only loaded the 6800 file from tape but not used it yet.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/HP_1630_IA_tape_files.zip
 

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Nice collection. I have a HP 64000 emulator with a number of probes.
 

Cyberjobe

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Hello guys. I'm totally new to the HP 64000 world. :) I'm looking for a copy of this manual.

HP Model 64683A Z80 Interface Module, with Service Brief 64683-90901, printed January 1983

Can some one please provide me a link where to download it?

Thank you... :)
 
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