Looking for volunteers to help test a new benchmark

Trixter · Nov 27, 2011

b44ccd21 said:
here's a few more results for you....

Much obliged!

BIOSinfo=(C) Copyright 1986 Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc((CC)) CCooppyyrriigghhtt 11998866 AAmmssttrraadd CCoonnssuummeerr EElleeccttrroonniiccss ppllccg (q , rev. 0)

Hilarious!

i also tested a few modernish machines and the results confirmed what i'd suspected, i.e. for real mode 16bit progs P4 are slower than P3 machines (guessed this before as i'd found lots of my 128/256b intros that ran full frame on p3 take well over a frame on p4 and above!).

I also found that out. It was very strange seeing my Core i7 only 20% better than a P3 500MHz. Well, now we know.

Thanks also to vwestlife for the 386sx16 result!

Cimonvg · Nov 27, 2011

hello , today's testresults:
xt motherboard with SOTA 286 cpu add on card. In the add on card, did replace cpu with "make it 486" . NO driver for the cpu used in this test.

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer. Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UID1F68BE8]
MemoryTest=2495
OpcodeTest=1883
VidramTest=1817
MemEATest=2321
3DGameTest=1910
Score=5
CPU=Cyrix/TI 486-class processor
CPUspeed=33 MHz
BIOSinfo=Copyright (c) 1984,1985,1986 Phoenix Technologies Ltd (09/24/87, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0000
BIOSdate=19870924
BIOSCRC16=1F68
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, ATI 28800-5VGAWonderBios : 0.1, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)
Machine=PC/XT

And did try today. My "rev to 486" in the Inboard. But 0.95 version of the test program did not recognize the blue lighning cpu. The chip and speed are just .. awesome !
test with 16 Mhz 386 : Dhrystones: 3094
test with 50 Mhz 486 : Dhrystones: 19379 ... still running on the xt-motherboard !!

/cimonvg

Trixter · Nov 27, 2011

Cimonvg said:
hello , today's testresults:
xt motherboard with SOTA 286 cpu add on card. In the add on card, did replace cpu with "make it 486" . NO driver for the cpu used in this test.

I'm not sure I understand the results. The CPU model and speed seem to be detected somewhat properly, but the actual code execution (which has nothing to do with whether or not the CPU was detected properly) is so slow that it's just about the speed of a PC/XT (your Score is 5 whereas a PC/XT is a 4). You wrote "NO driver for the CPU used in this test", can you be more specific what that means? Is there a driver to run to activate the CPU? If so, you should re-run the test with everything running at full speed.

hexsane · Nov 27, 2011

3 Machines as follows:

PCjr:
;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer. Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UID44F21E7F]
MemoryTest=2412
OpcodeTest=1461
VidramTest=1875
MemEATest=1776
3DGameTest=1351
Score=6
CPU=NEC V20
CPUspeed=4.77 MHz
BIOSinfo=1504037 COPR. IBM 1981,1983PS (06/01/83, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0000
BIOSdate=19830601
BIOSCRC16=44F2
VideoSystem=CGA
VideoAdapter=IBM PCjr
Machine=PCjr

NCR PC4 (mono):
;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer. Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UIDD41404]
MemoryTest=3774
OpcodeTest=1744
VidramTest=2345
MemEATest=1935
3DGameTest=1846
Score=4
CPU=Intel 8088
CPUspeed=4.77 MHz
BIOSinfo=0003277 NCR COPR. 1984 (06/03/85, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0000
BIOSdate=19850603
BIOSCRC16=0D41
VideoSystem=MDA
VideoAdapter=MDA
Machine=PC

Amiga 80286 Bridge Board:
;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer. Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UIDC6074502E]
MemoryTest=924
OpcodeTest=398
VidramTest=684
MemEATest=517
3DGameTest=391
Score=17
CPU=Intel 80286
CPUspeed=8 MHz
BIOSinfo=A2286 BIOS, COPYRIGHT (C) 1988 Commodore Business Machines Version 3.6 (09/xx/88, rev. 0)
MachineModel=01FC
BIOSdate=19880900
BIOSCRC16=C607
VideoSystem=CGA
VideoAdapter=CGA
Machine=AT clone

hexsane · Nov 27, 2011

I had a spare V20 sitting here so I stuck it into the NCR PC4:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
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;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UIDD413A7]
MemoryTest=2478
OpcodeTest=1511
VidramTest=1775
MemEATest=1860
3DGameTest=1394
Score=5
CPU=NEC V20
CPUspeed=4.77 MHz
BIOSinfo=0003277 NCR COPR. 1984 (06/03/85, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0000
BIOSdate=19850603
BIOSCRC16=0D41
VideoSystem=MDA
VideoAdapter=MDA
Machine=PC

Trixter · Nov 27, 2011

Much obliged. The speedup by the NEC V20 in both cases is in line with my own observations (ie. roughly a 20% speedup).

nestor · Nov 27, 2011

Here are my tests:

IBM PS/1 Model 2011 80286 10 MHz (verified 10.0 MHz with Open Logic Sniffer)

Code:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
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;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UID9C90130B0F]
MemoryTest=736
OpcodeTest=315
VidramTest=1116
MemEATest=408
3DGameTest=305
Score=17
CPU=Intel 80286
CPUspeed=9.54 MHz
BIOSinfo=        COPR. IBM 1981, 1989 (02/16/90, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0BFC
BIOSdate=19900216
BIOSCRC16=9C90
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, unknown Chipset, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)
Machine=PS/1 Model 2011 286-10

IBM PS/1 Model 2011 80286 underclocked to 3.579 MHz (also verified with Open Logic Sniffer)

Code:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer.  Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UID9C901313D8]
MemoryTest=2190
OpcodeTest=962
VidramTest=1878
MemEATest=1260
3DGameTest=923
Score=7
CPU=Intel 80286
CPUspeed=4 MHz
BIOSinfo=        COPR. IBM 1981, 1989 (02/16/90, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0BFC
BIOSdate=19900216
BIOSCRC16=9C90
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, unknown Chipset, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)
Machine=PS/1 Model 2011 286-10

TurboXT Clone board, 4.77 Mhz, Realtek RTG3106 SVGA 512kb

Code:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer.  Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UIDB7F3D52]
MemoryTest=3678
OpcodeTest=1739
VidramTest=2008
MemEATest=1918
3DGameTest=1837
Score=4
CPU=Intel 8088
CPUspeed=4.77 MHz
BIOSinfo=&#155;(C)Award 1986 IBM COMPATIBLE.* (01/30/87, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0000
BIOSdate=19870130
BIOSCRC16=B7F3
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, Primus 2000, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)
Machine=PC

TurboXT Clone board, 8 Mhz, Realtek RTG3106 SVGA 512kb (All benchmarks give less than expected results when this motherboard is in Turbo mode)

Code:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer.  Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UIDB7F334B]
MemoryTest=1945
OpcodeTest=946
VidramTest=1623
MemEATest=1001
3DGameTest=1074
Score=8
CPU=Intel 8088
CPUspeed=7.16 MHz
BIOSinfo=(C)Award 1986 IBM COMPATIBLE.* (01/30/87, rev. 0)
MachineModel=0000
BIOSdate=19870130
BIOSCRC16=B7F3
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, Primus 2000, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)
Machine=PC

Celeron Tualatin 1100 MHz

Code:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer.  Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UIDA46812C3C1]
MemoryTest=1
OpcodeTest=2
VidramTest=113
MemEATest=4
3DGameTest=5
Score=434
CPU=Intel Pentium Pro (undistinguished)
CPUspeed=1103 MHz
BIOSinfo=war.Copyright (C) 1984-2001, Award Software, Inc. (12/03/01, rev. 0)
MachineModel=01FC
BIOSdate=20011203
BIOSCRC16=A468
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, S3 unknown, VESA, 512kb Video Memory, 32768kb Video Memory 
Machine=AT clone

Trixter · Nov 27, 2011

Much obliged! I've fixed a regression and 10MHz should show up as 10MHz from now on. I have to ask, though:

IBM PS/1 Model 2011 80286 underclocked to 3.579 MHz (also verified with Open Logic Sniffer)

I'm confused by this. Why intentionally underclock to a speed no 286 has ever run in a personal computer?

vwestlife · Nov 28, 2011

Trixter said:
Why intentionally underclock to a speed no 286 has ever run in a personal computer?

I know the Tandy 1000 models with an 8 MHz 80286 would let you switch it down to 4 MHz, to allow games written for a 4.77 MHz 8088 to run at approximately the correct speed.

vwestlife · Nov 28, 2011

Trixter said:
Thanks also to vwestlife for the 386sx16 result!

One slight glitch, though... I pulled out the CPU daughtercard, and it turns out it is actually an Intel "C Step" NG80386SX-16 chip, not an "AMD Am386SX" as the program reported:

Compgeke · Nov 28, 2011

Here are some odd ball results. My host computer is a 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo (E6700), ram and stuff don't really matter do they since these have 16 megs of ram assigned to them.

Virtual PC 2007 x64, reports...9 GHz processor?

[UID67FB129339]
MemoryTest=181
OpcodeTest=649
VidramTest=532
MemEATest=366
3DGameTest=773
Score=3013
Machine=AT clone
CPU=Intel Pentium Pro (undistinguished)
CPUspeed=9280 MHz
BIOSinfo=(C)1985-2000,American Megatrends Inc.,All Rights Reserved,6145F Northbelt Parkway,GA-30071,USA.(770)-246-8600. (02/22/06, rev. 0)
BIOSdate=20060222
BIOSCRC16=67FB
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, S3 86c868/86c968 PCI, VESA, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)

Virtual Box 4.1.4:

[UIDF97B129F6F]
MemoryTest=284
OpcodeTest=1065
VidramTest=243
MemEATest=935
3DGameTest=930
Score=183
Machine=PC-AT 2x9, 6MHz
CPU=Intel Pentium Pro (undistinguished)
CPUspeed=2523 MHz
BIOSinfo=unknown (06/23/99, rev. 1)
BIOSdate=19990623
BIOSCRC16=F97B
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, Yamaha 6388, VESA, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)

QEMU set to emulate 6x 486 processors. Think there might be a QEMU error since it reported Pentium II. Although, emulating ANY processor says Pentium II...

[UID59BA12B775]
MemoryTest=124
OpcodeTest=507
VidramTest=63
MemEATest=424
3DGameTest=524
Score=865
Machine=PC-AT 2x9, 6MHz
CPU=Intel Pentium II
CPUspeed=2612 MHz
BIOSinfo=(c) 2002 MandrakeSoft S.A. Written by Kevn Lawton & the Bochs team. (07/11/09, rev. 1)
BIOSdate=20090711
BIOSCRC16=59BA
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, unknown Cirrus CL-GD54, VESA, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)

Edit:
Tried running it in BOCHS 2.5 pre release and it froze at checking CPU speed, and nothing showed up in the console :/.

Chuck(G) · Nov 28, 2011

Micronics 386=20

Micronics 386=20

Code:

;Data collected by: TOPBENCH | Benchmark and detection stub | Version 0.95
;This file contains fingerprinting information about your computer.  Please
;email this file to trixter@oldskool.org with a subject line of "Benchmark" to
;help test these routines and seed the TOPBENCH database.

[UID3BA912D92F]
MemoryTest=393
OpcodeTest=134
VidramTest=216
MemEATest=140
3DGameTest=134
Score=49
CPU=AMD Am386DX
CPUspeed=20 MHz
BIOSinfo=Copyright (C) 1992 Micro Firmware Incorporated (04/19/90, rev. 0)
MachineModel=01FC
BIOSdate=19900419
BIOSCRC16=3BA9
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, S3 86c801/5 C, VESA, 1024kb Video Memory, 1024kb Video Memo
Machine=AT clone

13MB RAM is on an external card. No cache.

Compgeke · Nov 28, 2011

Here is from a real computer, an AST Adventure! 400.
I found the way the BIOS was reported strange.

Oh, and how is it possible that the ram is SO SLOW?

[UID9D2D15A79E]
MemoryTest=32
OpcodeTest=17
VidramTest=128
MemEATest=12
3DGameTest=10
Score=298
Machine=AT clone
CPU=AMD 5k86 (K5)
CPUspeed=100 MHz
BIOSinfo=Award SoftwareIBM COMPATIBLE 486 BIOS CO I nc .o ft wa re I nc . Aw (04/08/97, rev. 0)
BIOSdate=19970408
BIOSCRC16=9D2D
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, S3 86c868/86c968 PCI, VESA, 1024kb Video Memory, 1024kb Video Memory (VESA)

Chuck(G) · Nov 28, 2011

Neoware CA21 (Thin Client)

Neoware CA21 (Thin Client)

For yucks. Booted from a USB floppy:

Code:

[UID39A1149D6B]
MemoryTest=3
OpcodeTest=2
VidramTest=112
MemEATest=2
3DGameTest=1
Score=422
CPU=Unknown 686-class CPU (Make : CentaurHauls)
CPUspeed=750 MHz
BIOSinfo=es, Ltd. Phoenix T.Copyright (C) 2003, Phoenix Technologies, LTD (08/17/06, rev. 0)
MachineModel=01FC
BIOSdate=20060817
BIOSCRC16=39A1
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, VESA, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)
Machine=AT clone

The manufacturer swears it's an 800 MHz VIA CPU, so I don't know about the 750MHz.

Chuck(G) · Nov 28, 2011

Ami 386-40

Ami 386-40

Has about 4MB RAM on board.

Code:

[UID50F6751C1]
MemoryTest=183
OpcodeTest=86
VidramTest=317
MemEATest=95
3DGameTest=77
Score=77
CPU=AMD Am386DX
CPUspeed=40 MHz
BIOSinfo=R(C)1985-1991,American Megatrends Inc.,All Rights Reserved.,1346 Oakbrook Dr.,#120,GA-30093,USA.(404)-263-8181. (12/12/91, rev. 0)
MachineModel=01FC
BIOSdate=19911212
BIOSCRC16=50F6
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, Trident TR9000i, VESA, 768kb Video Memory, 512kb Video Memo
Machine=AT clone

Compgeke · Nov 28, 2011

Well, this one is really messed up. This was taking from a Quad-Xeon Intel SRSH4, these results are SEVERLY messed up.
The specs of this are: 4x 2.5 GHz Xeon MP (Gallaton Core) and the video card is a 128 MB GeForce FX5500. I ran this from an MS-DOS boot disk since Windows Server 2008 didn't like the program.

[UID3DD613FB3C]
MemoryTest=0
OpcodeTest=2
VidramTest=165
MemEATest=0
3DGameTest=0
Score=293
Machine=AT clone
CPU=Intel P8
CPUspeed=2420 MHz
BIOSinfo=unknown (06/20/03, rev. 0)
BIOSdate=20030620
BIOSCRC16=3DD6
VideoSystem=VGA
VideoAdapter=VGA, VESA, 256kb Video Memory (BIOS)

Trixter · Nov 28, 2011

vwestlife said:
One slight glitch, though... I pulled out the CPU daughtercard, and it turns out it is actually an Intel "C Step" NG80386SX-16 chip, not an "AMD Am386SX" as the program reported

No worries, at least I got the 386sx16 part right. The detection routines are a convenience to the end user, but correct detection is not required to get the full use of the benchmark.

Trixter · Nov 28, 2011

Compgeke said:
Well, this one is really messed up. This was taking from a Quad-Xeon Intel SRSH4, these results are SEVERLY messed up.

Not really, P4s are slower in real mode than P3s. In fact, those results seem pretty normal (to me) for 16-bit real mode for that class of machine.

Trixter · Nov 28, 2011

Compgeke said:
Here are some odd ball results.

Unfortunately I can't use any of these results because something blew a gasket and the results are gibberish. On very fast machines, most if not all of the tests should have an execution time of 0 microseconds and the Score is the only thing that can be used to gauge the speed of the system, but the fact that they're all in the hundreds or more means that something is seriously wrong. Maybe the initial execution of the code is slow but subsequent execution goes much faster? I'm not up on how state-of-the-art emulators do pcode or JIT compiling, so I'm just guessing.

Keep in mind the benchmark's useful range, by design, stops at the Pentium III. Or, "any machine where running 16-bit real-mode code in DOS is still practical and expected".

Trixter · Nov 28, 2011

Compgeke said:
Here is from a real computer, an AST Adventure! 400.
I found the way the BIOS was reported strange.

The code to detect the BIOS copyright string finds a keyword ("COPR.", "COPYRIGHT", etc.) and then scans backward to find the first non-printable character, then scans forward to find the last non-printable character. So if there is junk, albeit printable, that ends up in the string. The full benchmark tool in development allows the user to edit all of these fields before committing them to the database.

Oh, and how is it possible that the ram is SO SLOW?

The video card? S3 cards usually needed a tweak to operate in faster modes depending on the bus, didn't they? See http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=15190 and scan down to "S3 Speed Up", for example.

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