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Manuals for DECnet-VAX V1.3 wanted

vaxorcist

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DECnet-VAX V1.3 software (used with VMS V2.0 and V2.1) has been rediscovered.
This is very early DECnet Phase II using DMC11 for point-to-point connections.
NCP is working, but there are still some problems left to be solved.

Has anyone got one or more of the following DECnet V1.3 manuals available?

- AA-H165A-TE DECnet-VAX Release Notes
- AD-D901A-T1 DECnet-VAX System User's Guide Update Notice #1
- AA-D901A-TE DECnet-VAX System User's Guide
- AA-D902A-TE DECnet-VAX System Manager's Guide
- AD-D902A-T1 DECnet-VAX System Manager's Guide Update Notice #1

Anyone still knowing how to set up and start DECnet V1.x?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Regards,

Ulli
 

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DECnet V1.3 & VMS V2.0 up and running (on two simh VAX750s):

sim> b rp0
Loading boot code from vmb.exe

VAX/VMS Version V2.0 5-APR-1980 21:11

Opcom, 2-AUG-1980 18:44:25.99, logfile initialized, operator=_OPA0:

SET STATE LOCAL ON
Opcom, 18:44:26.30, NETACP Accnt=
Opcom, DECnet starting

SET STATE LINE DMC11_0 ON
Opcom, 18:44:27.29, NETACP Accnt=
Opcom, DECnet line XMA0: starting

SET STATE LINE DMC11_1 ON
Opcom, 18:44:27.31, NETACP Accnt=
Opcom, DECnet line XMB0: starting

EXIT
Login quotas - Interactive limit=64, Current interactive value=0
SYSTEM job terminated at 2-AUG-1980 18:44:27.35
Opcom, 18:44:29.07, NETACP Accnt=
Opcom, DECnet line XMA0: received a valid node init from address: 3, name: VAX2

Username: SYSTEM
Password:
Welcome to VAX/VMS Version V2.0 on node _VAX1::

$ sh net

Node Address Line State

VAX1 2 LOCAL ON
VAX2 3 XMA0 ON

$ sh sys

VAX/VMS Processes on 2-AUG-1980 18:44:50.87 Uptime 0 00:00:26

Pid Process Name UIC State Pri Dir. I/O CPU Page flts Ph.Mem
00010000 NULL 000,000 COM 0 0 00:00:24.83 0 0
00010001 SWAPPER 000,000 HIB 16 0 00:00:00.07 0 0
0002002A SYSTEM 001,004 CUR 4 8 00:00:00.04 127 83
0001002B ERRFMT 001,006 HIB 8 4 00:00:00.01 29 31
0001002C OPCOM 001,004 LEF 8 3 00:00:00.00 32 40
0001002D JOB_CONTROL 001,004 HIB 9 6 00:00:00.02 56 102
0001002E DBA0ACP 001,003 HIB 8 88 00:00:00.03 87 143
0002002F NETACP 001,001 HIB 10 5 00:00:00.02 65 54

$ dir vax2"system manager"::dba0:

Directory _VAX2"system password"::_DBA0:[SYSMGR]

ACCOUNTNG.DAT;1 CHARTYPE.DAT;1 ERFSTART.COM;1 FAL.LOG;3
FAL.LOG;2 FAL.LOG;1 FORMSTYPE.DAT;1 LOGIN.000;2
LOGIN.000;1 LOGIN.COM;1 LPA11STRT.COM;1 NICE.LOG;38
NICE.LOG;37 NICE.LOG;36 OPERATOR.LOG;61 OPERATOR.LOG;60
OPERATOR.LOG;59 OPERATOR.LOG;58 OPERATOR.LOG;57 OPERATOR.LOG;56
OPERATOR.LOG;55 OPERATOR.LOG;54 OPERATOR.LOG;53 OPERATOR.LOG;52
OPERATOR.LOG;51 OPERATOR.LOG;50 OPERATOR.LOG;49 OPERATOR.LOG;48
OPERATOR.LOG;47 OPERATOR.LOG;46 OPERATOR.LOG;45 OPERATOR.LOG;44
OPERATOR.LOG;43 OPERATOR.LOG;42 OPERATOR.LOG;41 OPERATOR.LOG;40
OPERATOR.LOG;39 OPERATOR.LOG;38 OPERATOR.LOG;37 OPERATOR.LOG;36
OPERATOR.LOG;35 OPERATOR.LOG;34 OPERATOR.LOG;33 OPERATOR.LOG;32
OPERATOR.LOG;31 OPERATOR.LOG;30 OPERATOR.LOG;29 OPERATOR.LOG;28
OPERATOR.LOG;27 OPERATOR.LOG;26 OPERATOR.LOG;25 OPERATOR.LOG;24
OPERATOR.LOG;23 OPERATOR.LOG;22 OPERATOR.LOG;21 OPERATOR.LOG;20
OPERATOR.LOG;19 OPERATOR.LOG;18 OPERATOR.LOG;17 OPERATOR.LOG;16
OPERATOR.LOG;15 OPERATOR.LOG;14 OPERATOR.LOG;13 OPERATOR.LOG;12
OPERATOR.LOG;11 OPERATOR.LOG;10 OPERATOR.LOG;9 OPERATOR.LOG;8
OPERATOR.LOG;7 OPERATOR.LOG;6 OPERATOR.LOG;5 OPERATOR.LOG;4
OPERATOR.LOG;3 OPERATOR.LOG;2 OPERATOR.LOG;1 RTTLOAD.COM;1
SYSHUTDWN.COM;2 SYSHUTDWN.COM;1 SYSTARTUP.COM;3 SYSTARTUP.COM;2
SYSTARTUP.COM;1

Total of 81 files.

$

P.S.
The manuals are still very important, so please have a look at your collection!

Regards,

Ulli
 

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... by the way: I can supply a lot more "ancient" software for the big old VAXen, for real ones and for simh as well, just ask!
 

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... by the way: I can supply a lot more "ancient" software for the big old VAXen, for real ones and for simh as well, just ask!

Interesting! I have an 11/730. I have it up and running, but I haven't worked out how to get software on and off of it yet. It has an ethernet card, but I have not succeeded in getting it talking to my modern machines yet. Another option I've considered is coming up with some way for my modern machines to read/write 9-track tape.
 

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Suggestion:
Make your PC talk DECnet using Linux, e.g. Debian "Jessie" with packages: dnet-progs, dnet-common and libdnet (there may be other Linux-distros offering DECnet, too). Works perfectly!

As soon as you can push and pull data to/from your VAX this way you can install TCP/IP Services (formerly known as "UCX") on your VAX and make it talk TCP/IP as well.

By the way: Which type of 9-track tape drive have you got with your 11/730, which Ethernet card (DEUNA/DELUA) and how much memory does it have?

P.S.
Of course you'll need some hardware, too: A transceiver (TP at best) and an AUI cable.

See the project page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-decnet/
 
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My PC is a Mac. I presume that running Linux under a VM won't help me, since DECnet requires changing the MAC address, something that I don't think is supported by the virtual networking interfaces in VMware.

The OpenVMS installation presently on my VAX's hard drive seems to respond without complaints when I try to set up TCP/IP networking, so I presume that the IP code is present. I just haven't gotten it to respond to pings or anything yet. The functional status of my ethernet card, transceiver, AUI cable, bulkhead panel and somewhat-mangled bulkhead interconnect cable are still unknown quantities, and I haven't spent more than a couple hours working on that stuff so far.

My tape drive is a TU80. I've run backups of the R80 (with OpenVMS installed; 7.3 if I recall correctly) and RL02 pack (with VMS 5.3 installed, IIRC).

I don't recall off the top of my head which ethernet card and how much RAM I have, and I'm not near the machine at the moment to look. This darned day job sure gets in the way of my fun! :)
 
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