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If anybody get it to work, please provide DETAILED step-by-step instructions as of all this trucload of information really confuses me.
Well, one can certainly transfer any amount of data on floppies as long as you break it in to chunks. That's a long way from running it off a floppy though. My original assumption was that you would have your whole OS, plus any utilities and applications, on ONE (count em) 360k floppy. At any rate, people usually don't put large bore winchesters in their XTs.NTEPB: Try this link here. Worked great for me in getting Net Client onto my XT using the old floppies.
If you have the FreeDOS CD which is available for free (of course) on the net you can just boot form it on any machine with a CD and FD then "format b: /f:720 /u /s" and that should do it. Note that the optical comes up as A:, that's why the B: in the command. Otherwise there is always the standalone "sys" command which is about as simple as it gets. Anyway, I'm sure you can figure it out.JT64: So if anyone have a 720 boot image for freedos, i will jump in joy.
Well, one can certainly transfer any amount of data on floppies as long as you break it in to chunks. That's a long way from running it off a floppy though. My original assumption was that you would have your whole OS, plus any utilities and applications, on ONE (count em) 360k floppy.
I just downloaded MS Net Client 3.0 and its 2.5Megs so it'll take a bit of pruning to get on an XT or 360K diskette!
For me to run a DOS FTP client I need less than 64k and that includes all relevant programs...
If anybody get it to work, please provide DETAILED step-by-step instructions as of all this trucload of information really confuses me.
Sorry...I was under the impression that you were trying to transfer Net Client onto your XT from a more modern machine, not run it all from 1 floppy, as shown here:
That's exactly why I posted the link earlier.
And yes, I have a single boot disk that will allow me to connect to my Windows systems from my 8088 systems. To get it all to run on just one 360KB diskette, then no, Net Client will NOT work. Simple reason - NET.EXE for Net Client is over 410KB by itself. That's why I use LAN Manager on my PCjr, and yes, it can all be slimmed down to fit. My boot diskette has the following:
PC-DOS 3.30 boot files (IBMBIO.COM, IBMDOS.COM, COMMAND.COM)
Bare-bones LAN Manager files w/ NetBEUI
Memory-management software (PCjr users know about this very well)
This leaves me with about 5KB of free space left on my boot disk.
Once everything is booted, my PCjr will display a C:\> prompt, and now I have access to terabytes of storage, which is all I'm looking for...essentially, a very large hard drive for my floppy-only 8088s. Any spare utilities I normally use in AUTOEXEC.BAT reside on the server, and they access there a LOT faster than my 360KB drives ever will.
Now you've sparked my curiosity...which DOS FTP software are you using? I'd be interested to try it and see if it works for my systems better than my bootable NetBEUI setup.
PM me if you'd like to try my article out. It's still a rough-draft copy, but it should work (Trixter has been monumental in helping me test it out). The links provided by Jorg and Ole Juul have LOTS of good info on how it all works.
JT64 - please tell us if all this info is getting you up and running with networking your XT. Even better...are you looking to just access a Windows share from your XT to open files/run programs (peer-to-peer networking, similar to INTERLNK), or are you looking to do more?
Thanks. :mrgreen:
Jon
For accessing simples shares, a NETBEUI stack is sufficient.JT64 said...reach networkshares
For accessing simples shares, a NETBEUI stack is sufficient.
For telnet, ftp, etc, since these are TCP/IP tools. you need a TCP/IP stack.
You can mount a remote floppy quite simply by remotely sharing the floppy.
I don't know of any DOS tools to mount an ISO image, however, Microsoft has a free virtual cd driver that let's you mount an ISO on your XP box as a driveletter, and you can the share this the regular way as a cd over the network.
The utility is free, and here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...d58df02efa2/winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21.exe
patscc
I use WFTP which is a wattcp application so it needs only two more things to run. A packet driver, and a wattcp.cfg configuration file. Other than that, it is a single executable. The cfg remains the same for most wattcp applications so you can put it in your environment. Assuming that you have a network card in the computer and have found the appropriate packet driver, then type at the command line or put in your autoexec.bat: "YOURPKTDRVR.COM 0x60". This loads the packet driver at 0x60 which is probably fine. To run FTP, type at the command line "FTP" . You can now type "help", "open", "put", "get", "mget", etc. In short, you need the one executable, a packetdriver, and a small configuration file containing 6 variables: your IP, gateway, nameserver, netmask, ISP, and your computers name (eg, XTBOX). In my case those 3 files add up to 62Kb.NTEPB: Now you've sparked my curiosity...which DOS FTP software are you using? I'd be interested to try it and see if it works for my systems better than my bootable NetBEUI setup.
NTEPB: Sorry...I was under the impression that you were trying to transfer Net Client onto your XT from a more modern machine, not run it all from 1 floppy, as shown here:
NTEPB: Once everything is booted, my PCjr will display a C:\> prompt, and now I have access to terabytes of storage, which is all I'm looking for...essentially, a very large hard drive for my floppy-only 8088s. Any spare utilities I normally use in AUTOEXEC.BAT reside on the server, and they access there a LOT faster than my 360KB drives ever will.