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Toshiba T200CT/80

wulp

wulp

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I need to reinstall windows for pen.
For that, I first have to install Windows 3.x.
Does anyone know for sure if there is a Toshiba version of Windows 3.x?
Or can the regular Microsoft version be installed?
Thanks!
 
I've got a couple of those kicking around, with the original software on them. They use Windows for Pen Computing, with toshiba specific drivers. You can use regular win3.1 without any pen features, but that kinda takes the whole point away. I'll dig mine up tonight and see what size I can get the software down to.
 
Yeah the big issue was that Windows for Pen Computing was OEM based on the vendor and product and was not available as a separate package like it was later on. My attempts to copy the install over from a GRiD, Compaq or IBM tablet choked on the unique OEM digitizer/display driver each used. You will need to find a hard disk image or recovery disk set for that.
 
These are from a working Toshiba T200CS/80, so should be correct for your machine.

Got them fired up and the appropriate files copied to a CF card (in a pcmcia reader). Looks like Windows is based off of 3.11. A full copy of Windows, DOS 6.22 (with the Toshiba utilities), and PCMPLUS3 (drivers for the pcmcia) is around 25 Meg. What's the current state of your T200? Bootable? How are you planning on transfering files to it?
 
After reading your posts, I'm not going to venture into it..
I can get files on the Toshiba T200CS/80 via the floppydrive (PA2606U). So that should work somewhere.
But my problem is actually not that big.
The Toshiba starts up perfectly and Win for Pen works.
Only at startup I get the message: Default Spell Checking Disabled (see photo). Apparently the Win 3.1 used to be installed in German (photo 2 = autoexec.bat).
That's probably why I get the message.
But I'd rather have this message than (perhaps) lose everything...
Unless this problem can be solved without major risk...
But at least, thanks for your help!

1 opstart win.jpg3 autoexec.jpg
 
Ahh. Yeah, that looks like it would be better to fix than replace. My guess is something in the handwriting recognition. As far as I know, Windows 3.11 didn't have any kind of spellchecker itself.
Might compare your c:\windows\penwin.ini with mine:

[Current]
User=User 1
InkWidth=3
InkColor=FF0000
SelectTimeout=500

[*User 1]
TryDictionary=100
ErrorLevel=25
EndRecognition=8000
TimeOut=1000
WriteDirection=103
MenuDropAlignment=0
Preferences=0
IntlPreferences=0
Recognizer=c:\windows\cicrec.dll

[Dictionary List]
C:\WINDOWS\MAINDICT.DLL=

[Recognizer List]
c:\windows\cicrec.dll=
C:\WINDOWS\MARS.DLL=

[Pen Palette]
WritingWindowOpen=1
WindowPos=120 240 430 428
AutoWrite=1
SKBOpen=1
SKBPos=360 0
Minimized=1
Comb=1
MinimizeTrain=1
TrainOpen=0
SKBMinimized=1
SKBView=1

[MsSpell]
C:\WINDOWS\MSAPPS\PROOF\MSSPELL.DLL=

[MsMainDict]
enuMain=C:\WINDOWS\MSAPPS\PROOF\MSSP_AM.LEX

[User List]
User 1=

[sysges]
C!=xx,0,{Ctrl}{Ins}
P!=xx,0,{Shift}{Ins}
X!=xx,0,{Shift}{Del}
U!=xx,0,{Alt}{Bs}


[MS-DOS]
EnableMSDOS=2

[*User 1.Dictionary List]
0=C:\WINDOWS\MAINDICT.DLL
 
I opened the penwin.ini file as you said.
There are some differences; I see twice: Recognizer=c:\windows\cicrec.dll
But what does that mean???

[Current]
User=User 1
InkWidth=1
InkColor=0
SelectTimeout=500

[*User 1]
TryDictionary=100
ErrorLevel=25
EndRecognition=8000
TimeOut=1000
WriteDirection=103
MenuDropAlignment=0
Preferences=0
IntlPreferences=0
Recognizer=C:\WINDOWS\MARS.DLL

[Dictionary List]
C:\WINDOWS\MAINDICT.DLL=

[Recognizer List]
C:\WINDOWS\MARS.DLL=

[Pen Palette]
WritingWindowOpen=1
WindowPos=170 0 480 188
AutoWrite=1
SKBOpen=0
SKBPos=0 0
Minimized=0
Comb=1
MinimizeTrain=1
SKBMinimized=0

[MsSpell]
C:\WINDOWS\MSAPPS\PROOF\MSSPELL.DLL=

[MsMainDict]
enuMain=C:\WINDOWS\MSAPPS\PROOF\MSSP_AM.LEX

[User List]
User 1=

[sysges]
C!=xx,0,{Ctrl}{Ins}
P!=xx,0,{Shift}{Ins}
X!=xx,0,{Shift}{Del}
U!=xx,0,{Alt}{Bs}


[MS-DOS]
EnableMSDOS=2

[*User 1.Dictionary List]
0=C:\WINDOWS\MAINDICT.DLL
 
On mine, it has the CIC handwriting recognizer. CIC was a spinoff of SRI. Looks like different OEMs had different recognizer options. I don't see the CIC files in the GRiD version of Win4Pen.

Do you have MSSP_AM.LEX in c:\windows\msapps\proof\ ? At a guess, Microsoft Spelling American Lexicon. If yours was originally german, maybe it should be MSSP_DE.LEX?
 
In the directory 'PROOF' there are 3 files:
CHKLIST.MS, MSSPELL and MEP_AM.LEX.
So there is no xxxDE_LEX...

Maybe I should experiment a bit in Control Panel : International and change the country selection / language selection / keyboard layout, etc.
 
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MEP_AM.LEX? Just checked and mine is definitely MSSP_AM.LEX.
Mine has these strings:

AM SAVE.051
'-.1ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
LETEINERARANONALENREORSERANESTLATH
English (US)
c Copyright Soft-Art, Inc. 1984-1991. All rights reserved.

And here's my settings in 'Control Panel'->'International':
IMG_20240125_081427_7.jpg
 
eswan said:
These are from a working Toshiba T200CS/80, so should be correct for your machine.

Got them fired up and the appropriate files copied to a CF card (in a pcmcia reader). Looks like Windows is based off of 3.11. A full copy of Windows, DOS 6.22 (with the Toshiba utilities), and PCMPLUS3 (drivers for the pcmcia) is around 25 Meg. What's the current state of your T200? Bootable? How are you planning on transfering files to it?
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Maybe I don't have permissions to see them since I am a newer user around here, but I don't see those files posted here. I'd like them too if you can provide them. I acquired a T200/CS and had plans to replace the HDD with a small CF card, but the HDD died before I could image it :( I've found the PCMCIA drivers elsewhere (I think) but not the correct Windows for Pen Computing.
 
Hello,
Those installation files were not posted; I still have them at home (I think).
I will look it up and keep you informed!
 
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