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Trantor T130B + IBM 5150 = defeated JDT

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JDT

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thank you ChannelManiac! This fine fellow sent me a v20 CPU for my 5150... I replaced the stock 8088 with it and BAM, I can read and write to the hard drive after booting from it!

So as someone had theorized, the T130B doesnt seem to like the 8088 cpu.. /shrug

oh happy days... i had been wrestling with that card for more than a year! weeeeee! :cool:


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http://artofhacking.com/th99/c/S-T/20318.htm

the T130B is the only 8-bit scsi I have, actually i have 2 of them. I can use a SCSI hard disk if I disable the cards bios and load drivers from the boot floppy. However, I can not for the life of me get a SCSI hdd to boot. It either locks on bios init, or passes init (depending on which drive im fidling with) and locks when i try to format it.

The drives I have at my disposal are:

Quantum P80S - 80mb (locks system on access)
IBM (for apple) DSAS-3360 - 350mb
Quantum Fireball FB10S011 - 1.08gb (works with bios disabled, locks on bios init)
Seagate ST31230N - 1.06gb (bios enabled or disabled, never gets assigned a drive letter)

I've checked jumper settings for each drive. Parity enabled, I leave termination disabled as I have a terminator at the end of the chain, all drives assigned to SCSI ID 0,

Could it be the IO port or memory address settings from the card be the problem? I've tried various... is there one I SHOULD use? I admit I am not knowledgable about memory addresses.

any input appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Term

Term

You should only have term disabled if your board is the man in the middle, i.e. you've got both internal & external devices.
If this is how you've it set, let me dig out my Seagate and check a couple of things.
patscc
 
patscc said:
You should only have term disabled if your board is the man in the middle, i.e. you've got both internal & external devices.
If this is how you've it set, let me dig out my Seagate and check a couple of things.
patscc
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no external drives.I have the 3 resistor packs installed in the T130B, and a terminator at the end of the chain with the hdd in the middle. should I turn the TE on the HDD on?
 
Any reason why you have SW6 (boot disable) on?

CA00 or CE00 (0,0,1 or 0,1,0 for SW3, 4, 5) should be fine as a BIOS address.

How about JP2 and JP3?
 
Chuck(G) said:
Any reason why you have SW6 (boot disable) on?

CA00 or CE00 (0,0,1 or 0,1,0 for SW3, 4, 5) should be fine as a BIOS address.

How about JP2 and JP3?
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ok changed to 3->5 0,0,1
bios was disabled last night trying to access a disk via driver.

JP2 (0WS) has no jumper

JP3 is set to IRQ5
 
Chuck(G) said:
Forgot to ask--your BIOS version?
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the card, 2.14

side note, using the IBM DSAS-xxxx drive, with updated settings seems to get past bios init, assigns drive letter C, the floppy drive spins like its going to start to boot from floppy for like 5 seconds.. .then nada, i get flashing cursor

by the way, Thank you, Chuck, I appreciate your assistance!
 
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Chuck(G) said:
What size partition are you trying to boot from on the SCSI drive? And is that partition set active (via FDISK?).
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n/a at the momment
tall i am trying to do is get the machine to boot after posting with the card (bios enabled) boot to the floppy i mean.

or should i set up the disk before i enable bios? if it will let me...
 
JDT said:
n/a at the momment
tall i am trying to do is get the machine to boot after posting with the card (bios enabled) boot to the floppy i mean.

or should i set up the disk before i enable bios? if it will let me...
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What happens if you leave the SCSI BIOS enabled, but disconnect the drive cable and try to boot from floppy? I wonder if the 130B's having problems with your hard disk layout.

Did you set your hard disk up using the SCSIWorks! toolkit?
 
if i disconnect the drive, but leave bios enables, the machine will boot to floppy. I did not use SCSI works, as I havent been able to get it to do anything but hang. maybe drive is jumperred wrong? im using the IBM DSAS drive atm.
 
Let's see if we can back up a bit. (I've been running a T130B on my own system here for a test).

You should have the 3 terminator restistor SIPs installed on your T130B. If I disable the BIOS and include MA13B.SYS and TSCSI.SYS in my (floppy) CONFiG.SYS, I find that TFORMAT correctly locates and identifies my drive on ID0 (you should have your SCSI ID set to that). If I run TFORMAT and then reboot with the BIOS enabled, I find that I can then SYS a system onto the drive C:.

It could also be that you might be able to partition your drive, but I'm not certain that the T130B knows too much about partitions.

How much of this have you tried?
 
NYB.... where that came from is beyond me...
must disinefect and try again tomorrow....
 
ok, clean boot media, drivers loaded, bios disabled. Boots to floppy, loads ma13b.sys (v1.16), finds controller and 1 direct access device 0. Starts to load tscsi.sys (v4.60, also tried v4.58) and then I get...

--- For Tthe ASPI Manager ---
Device (0, 0, 0): IBM DSAS-3360
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and it stops dead. Tried the quantum fireball and P80s drives as well same thing. Do I need to load tscsi? is ther another version i should be using? and maybe a termination or drive config issue...

http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/hard-drives-hdd/ibm/DSAS-3360-DESKSTAR-365MB-3-5-SL-SCSI2-FAST.html

i am using the "default settings".. .hmmmmmmmm

if i just load ma13b.sys and not tscsi.sys.. I can start tformat but locks at "Press Any Key" after typing "yes"

another side note, I found a seagate ST01 controller in my garage last night... usefull?
 
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T130b bios 2.14

T130b bios 2.14

Well, guys, I'm having just about the same symptoms. The card isn't recognizing drives. I've been using a Seagate ST32430N , a IBM DSAS 3720, and a Quantim 170S, and another Quantum.
The Seagate is the only one where I'm convinced that it will feed termpower onto the bus.
Nada. Interestingly enough I'm using BIOS 2.14. I wonder if this is something like the Future Domain TMC-850M issue.
Chuck(G), what BIOS version do you have on yours ? Does anyone have versions other than 2.14 the can email or post; I wouldn't mind burning them and trying them out.
I have a HP C3010 5.25 SCSI drive somewhere that I can dig out, but first I'd like to know if there are any other BIOS versions out there.
Also, since I haven't dumped the EPROM yet, does anyone know of the top of their head if the Trantor is supposed to list devices on startup or not ?
edit: Just realized I already have a dump from looking at it trying to decide if it hooked INT 19h on a different post
patscc
 
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Trantor string table

Trantor string table

Well, digging around in the BIOS's string table, is kinda interesting, I think the card is definitely not acting the way it should.You see all sorts of fragments of messages that would indicate that the card should do more than silently boot of the floppy, or dump you into BASIC, or hang.

Code: 
882E:0426  53 79 73 74 65 6D	data_21		db	'System Not Installed on SCSI Dev'
882E:042C  20 4E 6F 74 20 49
882E:0432  6E 73 74 61 6C 6C
882E:0438  65 64 20 6F 6E 20
882E:043E  53 43 53 49 20 44
882E:0444  65 76
882E:0446  69 63 65 2E 0D 0A			db	'ice.', 0Dh, 0Ah, 'Please Insert '
882E:044C  50 6C 65 61 73 65
           t.lst           IBM	Compatible SCSI BIOS.	Sourcer	v5.12   14-Feb- 9   8:15 pm   Page 13

882E:0452  20 49 6E 73 65 72
882E:0458  74 20
882E:045A  46 6C 6F 70 70 79			db	'Floppy disk.', 0Dh, 0Ah, 'Press '
882E:0460  20 64 69 73 6B 2E
882E:0466  0D 0A 50 72 65 73
882E:046C  73 20
882E:046E  41 6E 79 20 4B 65			db	'Any Key.Cannot boot off from mor'
882E:0474  79 2E 43 61 6E 6E
882E:047A  6F 74 20 62 6F 6F
882E:0480  74 20 6F 66 66 20
882E:0486  66 72 6F 6D 20 6D
882E:048C  6F 72
882E:048E  65 20 74 68 61 6E			db	'e than one SCSI card.', 0Dh, 0Ah
882E:0494  20 6F 6E 65 20 53
882E:049A  43 53 49 20 63 61
882E:04A0  72 64 2E 0D 0A
882E:04A5  50 6C 65 61 73 65			db	'Please disable the rest of the r'
882E:04AB  20 64 69 73 61 62
882E:04B1  6C 65 20 74 68 65
882E:04B7  20 72 65 73 74 20
882E:04BD  6F 66 20 74 68 65
882E:04C3  20 72
882E:04C5  6F 6D 73 20 6F 6E			db	'oms on the cards present.', 0Dh, 0Ah
882E:04CB  20 74 68 65 20 63
882E:04D1  61 72 64 73 20 70
882E:04D7  72 65 73 65 6E 74
882E:04DD  2E 0D 0A
882E:04E0  50 72 65 73 73 20			db	'Press any key.', 0Dh, 0Ah, 0
882E:04E6  61 6E 79 20 6B 65
882E:04EC  79 2E 0D 0A 00
882E:04F1  57 61 69 74 69 6E			db	'Waiting for SCSI Boot Device or '
882E:04F7  67 20 66 6F 72 20
882E:04FD  53 43 53 49 20 42
882E:0503  6F 6F 74 20 44 65
882E:0509  76 69 63 65 20 6F
882E:050F  72 20
882E:0511  46 6C 6F 70 70 79			db	'Floppy to get ready.', 0
patscc
 
Trantor DMA-1

Trantor DMA-1

Here's something wierd: The T130B BIOS seems to be using DMA channel 1 instead of 3. Has anyone ever heard of this ?
JDT, what kind of video card do you have in your system
patscc
 
I am using a 8-bit VGA card. Paradise'88 - pvga1a-jk - western digital. 1mb vram i think.

also, I found that using the 250H IO port gave me more success, as of right now i was able to boot to the DSAS drive! I used the tformat utility to first low level format, then high level/partition it and it sys'd the drive for me. HOWEVER any attempt to write to the drive results in 1. beeping and random ascii garbage across my screen OR hard lock.... not even sure what that could be from...
 
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