Agent Orange
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Very interesting . . .
You do know MacOS aka Mac OS X is UNIX(tm) don't you?
It still i behind that pretty GUI....Go and have a look. Alll BSD userland under there. running on top of a Mach/BSD hybrid kernel.In 2023 you can say that Unix is dead and that Unix is the most important contemporary computing standard.
Depends on whether you refer to the Unix philosophy or UNIX(TM) operating systems or POSIX compliance practices or Unix-like system distributions.
Unix-like OSes are everywhere. Everyone has them in their house in multiple devices. Windows runs a POSIX compatbility layer solely there so Unix-trade programmers can develop seamlessly on Windows desktop. Phones run it, smart TVs, whatnot. The adherence to Unix philosophy is hard to measure. Certainly it peaked in the distant past, and modern Linux is straying away from it, while OSX and aforementioned Windows and appliances include Unix/Posix only as an interface and not an overall design philosophy. Yet, the number of Unix-trade users these systems enabled in today's world is by the tens of millions.
POSIX compliance slowly died off with the UNIX(TM) and the workstations market. Nobody is going to invest a ton into complying unless it's a very specific case where compliance is required, like some government contracts or something.
I believe it used to be.
Current Darwin is listed only partially compatible, in same range as BSDs and Linux.
POSIX certification is not important for commodity hardware OS in 2023.
Not sure if you were being facetious, but The Open Group says otherwiseIt still i behind that pretty GUI....Go and have a look. Alll BSD userland under there. running on top of a Mach/BSD hybrid kernel.
Apple own the UNIX actually trademark
Apple own the UNIX actually trademark
Gilty your Honour! Is'nt it great to have a decrnt discution in AOs normal anti topics and it goes without saying the Three Stooges that follow him about. any thing unix/*nix threads. Apple do own CUPs and gladly share it with the rest of the community .Not sure if you were being facetious, but The Open Group says otherwise
I worked in a data center with a good 20,000 physical servers, a solid portion of which were colocated. In over a decade there, I saw one single rack mounted Xserve in use.rack-mountable Xserve line. (Which they discontinued in 2011 because, according to Steve Jobs himself, "hardly anyone was buying them".)
I worked in a data center with a good 20,000 physical servers, a solid portion of which were colocated. In over a decade there, I saw one single rack mounted Xserve in use.
I worked in a data center with a good 20,000 physical servers, a solid portion of which were colocated. In over a decade there, I saw one single rack mounted Xserve in use.
Virginia Tech Migrates Mac Supercomputer to Apples Xserve
The third-fastest supercomputer cluster located at Virginia Tech is moving from Power Macintosh G5 desktop machines to a similar number of Apple Computer's Xserve G5 rack-mount servers.www.eweek.com
It still i behind that pretty GUI....Go and have a look. Alll BSD userland under there. running on top of a Mach/BSD hybrid kernel.
Apple own the UNIX actually trademark
My recollection is that the BSD was known in the early days as "Berkeley UNIX", as it's based on the UNIX V6 originally, mostly by way of added programs, not replacements. When we ran 4.1BSD, the man pages were definitely those of AT&T UNIX. An organization back then could get a 9 track tape(s) from AT&T for a very modest fee. This was before the 1982 AT&T breakup.
At my company we had a few anti-Linux/Pro-Mac/BSD-Zealot guys that tried to get IT to buy some (the G5 model) for, I dunno, some reason they’d try to justify later, but they thankfully failed. (These were the same folks that eventually did succeed in getting us to waste $15,000 on a pair of absolute boat-anchor UltraSparc III servers to run the same two-factor auth software that we could have just run on RedHat using the same Xeon servers we had literally hundreds of available.)
Some people just *really* get the idea stuck in their heads that the same bits smell sweeter if they plop out the back of whatever their favorite less mainstream platform is. These days I generally just sigh and imagine these people also *insist* that records sound better than CDs because they can “hear the music breaking up” at 44.1khz and think something similar happens if your CPU has too ugly an instruction set or whatever.
Ah, but BSD and Linux don't have Copilot keys.
Can I get a Model M keyboard with that key?