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Found a new reason to hate modern windows

hunterjwizzard

hunterjwizzard

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So I've been fighting for years with a bug in windows 10 and windows defender. I finally found a potential solution... that involves safemode.

After an hour of digging around I discovered that in windows 10 you actually cannot cold-boot into safemode. Nevermind that 10 takes 3 times longer than XP to boot, they removed the ability to F8 into safe mode "to make it boot faster". After my conversation with Microsoft's AI devolved into screaming obscenities and death threats, the program wisely refused to tell me exactly who at m$ decided it should be this way.
 
Well, that is only ONE reason to hate Windows. How 'bout being forced to upgrade to Windows 11, or else?

Yes, Windows 10 uses a roundabout way to boot into safe mode. You have to use a shut down routine instead of just hitting F8 at boot. But Win10 does tend to recover better than W7 and W8.

Seaken
 
seaken said:
How 'bout being forced to upgrade to Windows 11, or else?
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Who's being forced to upgrade?

You forget, you're on a forum where people still willingly use windows 3.1. 10 will stick around for a long time the way XP acted as a bridge over vista to 7.

seaken said:
Yes, Windows 10 uses a roundabout way to boot into safe mode. You have to use a shut down routine instead of just hitting F8 at boot. But Win10 does tend to recover better than W7 and W8.
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I've actually had much the opposite experience insofar as windows 10 just randomly poops the bed and becomes completely unrecoverable, most frequently when I do anything to it other than a normal shut down/restart.
 
Well, you're right. I was being melodramatic. In my business I have to decide to change to Windows 11. I am inclined to stay with Windows 10. But I am tired of playing IT department so I will probably go ahead and upgrade to Windows 11 this year. But this time around I also have to upgrade the hardware. I'm not too happy about spending the cash since my Win 10 computers are working fine.

My experience with Windows 10 has been pretty good. At least as good as Windows 7. I have not experienced the random poops you have experienced. I cannot remember the last time I had to a full recovery. It usually just recovers itself just fine. I run five workstations and it has been pretty good for me. Windows 7 was also good. As was XP before that. But I don't really push my office machines beyond basic office stuff. And I don't game or experiment with hardware upgrades much. I don't play much with the office machines like I do with my old stuff. In the office it's about just getting the work done without much risk.

Seaken
 
10 was what made me finally jump ship for freenix. Absolute hot garbage on rollout, and while it's less so by now, it's still an absolute travesty compared to XP/7. 11 is even worse - whole chunks of the system will arbitrarily freeze for minutes at a time, for no rationally explicable reason, and often enough Task Manager is one of the affected components so you can't just kill whatever's causing the holdup. Maddening.
 
I use Linux on all my personal computers. But I have to stay with Windows in my business. I don't like the blatant ads in Windows 10 and Windows 11. I wish I had an alternative for running my software. But I feel forced to stay with Window 11 due to the dropping of support for Win10. But I have managed to ignore the adverts and games and can still get work done in the office. At least for now.

Seaken
 
I don't understand the design imperative of concealing options behind a button that can only be accessed with a modifier key plus a click. Operating systems and applications do not need to be treated like a mid-90s adventure game; surprises are not welcome. The concept of having the safe mode menu showing up at the login screen doesn't bother me but having to look online to find out about it does.

I am more amused by the Microsoft's constant worsening of the email clients and lesser office programs to slip in a few low quality ads. I guess the concept of dogfooding has been rejected.
 
Chuck(G) said:
I take it that "Windows" is some sort of program for the PC? /snark
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I was hoping for an absolutely livid rant about modern architecture trends like immovable floor to ceiling glass panels or those moving wall things. Because, seriously, I’m totally onboard with that. If I wanted to live in an aquarium I would have been born friggin’ Aquaman…
 
Eudimorphodon said:
I was hoping for an absolutely livid rant about modern architecture trends like immovable floor to ceiling glass panels or those moving wall things. Because, seriously, I’m totally onboard with that. If I wanted to live in an aquarium I would have been born friggin’ Aquaman…
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That came out of nowhere, but I'm onboard with it.

I actually like those immovable floor to ceiling glass panels, but they help me pretend I'm on a spaceship. Or at a zoo. Or in a museum. But mostly the spaceship thing.
 
The reason I stuck so long to Windows is that I still use a lot of old programs like Turbo Pascal. That one and other 16-bitters still work under W7-32, not W7-64. Then I had to buy a new laptop, W10 equipped. I only could run those old programs on an emulator now. If I have to use an emulator, then I can use Linux. The fact that I have to create a Microsoft account to be able to run W11 made me definitely decide to switch to Linux. I already installed it on another laptop to get used to it.
 
Use the current release of Rufus to write the Windows 11 ISO to a thumb drive and it will offer the option to enable a local account along with some other install tweaks that are very handy.
 
If you Google 'windows 10 enterprise iot ltsc key' - a number of purchase options appear that so far, I have never availed myself of - as they seem dubious. I introduced the company I work for to LTSC for the OS in all of our products,. It is supported by MS until 2032 - I have considered it for use at home instead of W11, which is just moving us closer to a pure online subscription model.
LTSC is like the stable, add-free Windows Microsoft could release to the public if they wanted to . It lacks the Windows store or the ability to natively install store/UWP apps but both abilities can be added via Powershell. That's how we get our UWP apps onto it.
 
Ruud said:
The reason I stuck so long to Windows is that I still use a lot of old programs like Turbo Pascal. That one and other 16-bitters still work under W7-32, not W7-64. Then I had to buy a new laptop, W10 equipped.
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There is a Windows 10-32; I've installed it on some older Dell all-in-one workstations that are too old to run 11. I need it for a specialized control program that loads and ISA board driver, even when the ISA board isn't installed. Won't load on Win10-64 but, but works fine on Win10-32.
 
lowen said:
There is a Windows 10-32; I've installed it on some older Dell all-in-one workstations that are too old to run 11. I need it for a specialized control program that loads and ISA board driver, even when the ISA board isn't installed. Won't load on Win10-64 but, but works fine on Win10-32.
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The kernels for W10-32 & W10-64 are 2 different animals. You can install W10-64 and run 32-bit programs but not the other way around. Also, I've never encountered "ISA" support/drivers in either version of W10. So, please reiterate exactly what you plan to accomplish.
 
All you guys who decided to go windows 8 or later must be massochists for all the excuses you give for using it. There is no real reason to do it.. yet i hear alot of "I hadta cuz..". But its not true at all. Your choosing to because your afraid to learn a new OS. Remember yo uhad to learn windows once upon a time.. why did you get so lazy since?

Learning to deal with windows 11 to me would be much harder than just usi ng linux... So quit your complaining.
 
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