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HP 1650/1651 Logic Analyzer Disk Images

Hate when I don't notice a cut-paste error until after it is too late to edit a post. The 1660 series section in the previous post should have been the following below. Hope I haven't missed other errors or typos.

HP 1660 series:
  • HP 1660A mono CRT, 4K sample depth, floppy only, no LAN option (1994)
    HP 1660AS add 2 channel, 1 GSa/s, 250MHz, 8K sample per channel scope
  • HP 1660C mono CRT, 4K sample depth, hard drive, LAN with Opt 015 (1996)
    HP 1660CS add 2 channel, 1 GSa/s, 250MHz, 8K sample per channel scope
  • HP 1660E color LCD, 4K sample depth, hard drive, LAN standard (1999)
    HP 1660ES adds 2 channel, 2 GSa/s, 500MHz, 32K sample per channel scope
    HP 1660EP adds 32 channel 256K vector depth per channel pattern generator
  • 1670A, 1670D, 1670E, 1670G 136 channels
  • 1671A, 1671D, 1671E, 1671G 102 channels
  • 1672A, 1672D, 1672E, 1672G 68 channels
  • 1660A, 1660C, 1660E 136 channels
  • 1661A, 1661C, 1661E 102 channels
  • 1662A, 1662C, 1662E 68 channels
  • 1663A, 1663C, 1663E 34 channels
  • 1664A 34 channels, 50MHz state
 
What's the best way to archive floppy disks? can we use a grease weasel? I have some 1660 upgrade kits that came with a bunch of disks.. these kits expanded the 1663/2/1 to full 136 channels.

I also have a bunch 166x/167x units i am willing to part with for anybody in the central florida area would be interested, as i am using mostly 1680X/1690X/1690D in my repairs
 
For the 1661A floppy disk that I shared here, I used a Greaseweazle and a standard HD 3.5" drive.
IMD is indeed a good format because it keeps the original sector interleaving information.
 
Nope
Al Kossow said:
PA/RISC analyzers run HP/UX but the 68K analyzers do not
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well it contains a bunch of SUN + BSD copyrights, runs X/ftp/telnet, so I made an assumption :)

I know its got a rockymountain basic type thing underneath too. now I remember, we poked around it on eevblog many years ago and its a variant of pSOS (Portable Software On Silicon), its an RTOS for 68k cpu's.
 
Al Kossow said:
Nope
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The problem is that when Wind River bought the company that made pSOS they
killed it. No one appears to have saved copies of the software or the documentation
of the original pSOS (not pSOS+) including HP. A lot of the teardown stuff and firmware
dumps on bitsavers was from when I was attempting to reconstruct that knowledge.
Lately, Eric Smith was doing the same but primarily for the 167xx era analyzers.
 
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Anyone manage to dump the disks for a HP 1662E.
I've got one with a faulty ROM and hoping the original disks will let me to as firmware install.
 
johnq said:
Anyone manage to dump the disks for a HP 1662E.
I've got one with a faulty ROM and hoping the original disks will let me to as firmware install.
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The 1660A-series and 1660C-series software is still currently available to download from Keysight. Attached below.

I can't find anything for the 1660E-series anywhere.
 

Attachments

From some of my old notes, it appears that I have these files saved away on a hard drive that I don't have online right at the moment. I'll try to retrieve these files from that disk later today. I must have downloaded these from the Agilent website many years ago.

Code: 
 Directory of H:\Download\callpub\ddt\portbls\166xE\op_sys\sysdisk1

05/01/2002  12:54 AM    <DIR>          .
05/01/2002  12:54 AM    <DIR>          ..
05/30/2001  11:00 PM            20,494 lg165.bdf
05/30/2001  11:00 PM             1,116 readme
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           131,328 rom
05/30/2001  11:00 PM            19,595 sm165.bdf
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           654,336 system.lan
               5 File(s)        826,869 bytes

 Directory of H:\Download\callpub\ddt\portbls\166xE\op_sys\sysdisk2

05/01/2002  12:55 AM    <DIR>          .
05/01/2002  12:55 AM    <DIR>          ..
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           244,992 sys_014
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           193,792 sys_025
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           558,848 sys_032
               3 File(s)        997,632 bytes

 Directory of H:\Download\callpub\ddt\portbls\166xE\op_sys\pv_test

05/01/2002  12:52 AM    <DIR>          .
05/01/2002  12:52 AM    <DIR>          ..
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           300,032 pvtest_
05/30/2001  11:00 PM           118,272 pv_014
05/30/2001  11:00 PM            27,136 pv_025
05/30/2001  11:00 PM            52,992 pv_032
               4 File(s)        498,432 bytes
 
Attached below are the 166xE/ES/EP operating system files that I downloaded from the Agilent FTP site many years ago.

The versions are all V02.02, except for the scope file, which is V02.03, and which only applies to 166xES models.

Hope this helps you fix your 1662E ROM issue.

Code: 
HP166XC/167XA Rom         V02.02
HP166XE/ES/EP LAN System  V02.02

32K Deep, GSa/s Scope     V02.03
200MHz Pattern Generator  V02.02
HP166XE Analyzer with SPA V02.02

HP166XE/ES/EP System Test V02.02
32K GSa/s Scope Test Prog V02.02
200MHz Pattern Gen. Test  V02.02
HP166XE  Analyzer Test    V02.02
 

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gslick said:
Attached below are the 166xE/ES/EP operating system files that I downloaded from the Agilent FTP site many years ago.

The versions are all V02.02, except for the scope file, which is V02.03, and which only applies to 166xES models.

Hope this helps you fix your 1662E ROM issue.

Code: 
HP166XC/167XA Rom         V02.02
HP166XE/ES/EP LAN System  V02.02

32K Deep, GSa/s Scope     V02.03
200MHz Pattern Generator  V02.02
HP166XE Analyzer with SPA V02.02

HP166XE/ES/EP System Test V02.02
32K GSa/s Scope Test Prog V02.02
200MHz Pattern Gen. Test  V02.02
HP166XE  Analyzer Test    V02.02
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Thanks very much. Really appreciate it.

Got a 'helpful' response from KeySight.

After reviewing your request, we discovered this model was discontinued on 1998 and reached its end of support in 2003. Please let us know if we can help you in exploring newer model options.

We look forward to working with you in the future.
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A friend of mine and I were discussing the fact that wide logic analyzers no longer have a market
because computers no longer are being built that HAVE exposed wide logic paths that can be probed.
There are no "newer model options" and even the older ones past the 16700 were full of expensive
option lockouts. You can't just plug in more boards, because the firmware in the mainframe is
locked to the factory shipping analyzer configuration.
 
Just for completeness, below is a list of 1660-series and 1670-series logic analyzer operating system versions which can still currently be downloaded from Keysight. Anyone with an interest in these might want to download and squirrel away copies before they inevitably disappear. (Maybe stick them on Bitsavers too?)

Missing from this list are the 166xE/ES/EP operating system files, which is what prompted the message a few posts back, and the 1670A operating system files, although it is possible that the 1670D operating system files also support the 1670A.

Code: 
1664A Operating System Software (Version A.01.01)
Release Date    Version     Version Description
1995-08-11      A.01.01     Operating system software for the 1664A logic analyzer.
1664A-VA-01-01-OS-SYS.zip

1660A/AS Series Operating System Software (Version 3.01)
Release Date    Version     Version Description
1995-01-12      3.01        Operating system software for the 1660A/AS Series logic analyzers.
166XA-AS-V3-01-OS-SYS.zip

1660C/CS Series Operating System Software (Version A.02.01)
Release Date    Version     Version Description
2005-05-17      A.02.01     Operating system software for the 1660C/CS Series logic analyzers.
166XC-CS-VA-02-01-OS-SYS.zip

1670D Series Operating System Software (Version A.02.01)
Release Date    Version     Version Description
1998-01-22      A.02.01     Operating system software for the 1670D Series logic analyzers.
167XD-VA-02-01-OS-SYS.zip

1670E Operating System Software (Version A.02.02)
Release Date    Version     Version Description
2000-05-01      A.02.02     Operating system software for the 1670E logic analyzer.
1670E-VA-02-02-OS-SYS.zip

1670G Series Operating System Software (Version A.03.02)
Release Date    Version     Version Description
2000-06-14      A.03.02     Operating system software for the 1670G Series logic analyzers.
167XG-A-03-02-OS-SYS.zip
 
gslick said:
Just for completeness, below is a list of 1660-series and 1670-series logic analyzer operating system versions which can still currently be downloaded from Keysight. Anyone with an interest in these might want to download and squirrel away copies before they inevitably disappear. (Maybe stick them on Bitsavers too?)

Missing from this list are the 166xE/ES/EP operating system files, which is what prompted the message a few posts back, and the 1670A operating system files, although it is possible that the 1670D operating system files also support the 1670A.
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Thank you for pointing these out! I see this available download for the 1670A/D:
Code: 
1670A/D Family Operating System Files Version A.02.01
Current Version: A.02.01 | 1998-01-22
And then these two:
Code: 
1670E Family Operating System Files Version A.02.02
Current Version: A.02.02 | 1998-12-08

1670G Family Operating System Files Version A.03.02
Current Version: A.03.02 | 1998-12-08
And for the earlier 165x (as long as we're sweeping files into a safe repository):
Code: 
1650A/1651A Operating System Software (Version 1.11)
Operating system software for the 1650A/1651A logic analyzers.
Current Version: 1.11 | 1996-04-04

1650B/1651B Operating System Software (Version 2.11)
Operating system software for the 1650B/1651B logic analyzers.
Current Version: 2.11 | 1995-09-27
 
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