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So recordable media is going the way of the floppy

I've already run into issues with SD cards over 2GB working with early SD readers. I've also run into BIOS support problems on some motherboards for IDE drives above certain capacities. On a home built clone pc I don't have a problem with adding a drive controller card if the onboard controller can't handle a drive capacity, however with some branded PC's I don't want to alter them too far from the OEM configuration.
 
It all goes in waves. Clouds are coming lower (or closer) as the companies and individuals see the issues with long-distance clouds. Until (as is now happening) the cloud becomes completely local, a Personal Cloud, as it were. Full circle.

-Tor
 
Moondog said:
...I've also run into BIOS support problems on some motherboards for IDE drives above certain capacities. On a home built clone pc I don't have a problem with adding a drive controller card if the onboard controller can't handle a drive capacity, however with some branded PC's I don't want to alter them too far from the OEM configuration.
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In cases like this you can use a DDO as a software workaround and not alter any of the machine's hardware.
 
I buy the cheap Walmart Sony CD-R's and have yet to have any issues. I like optical media because I can use it in my old PC's but also because I like to have a hard copy handy just in case. I have had some flash drives fail, either that or they don't even get recognized in windows 7.
 
CalculatorLab said:
I buy the cheap Walmart Sony CD-R's and have yet to have any issues.
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...Other than that you've had to build an addition to your house to store them all in! :) At only 650 MB they're a bit obsolete. A pair of large HDs would do the job quite nicely with far less work involved and immeasurably less space/storage requirements.
 
Stone said:
...Other than that you've had to build an addition to your house to store them all in!
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That's why you only put your important data on the CD, and leave your 1TB of goat porn on the hard drive.

Stone said:
A pair of large HDs would do the job quite nicely with far less work involved and immeasurably less space/storage requirements.
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Until a single controller glitch or user error wipes out the equivalent of over 9000 CDs in one second. (And there goes all yer goat porn :p )
 
How much real creative output, save for photos and movies does a person generate that needs to be saved? When cleaning up my mailbox, I'm continually astounded how much stuff is no longer relevant.
 
Chuck(G) said:
How much real creative output, save for photos and movies does a person generate that needs to be saved? When cleaning up my mailbox, I'm continually astounded how much stuff is no longer relevant.
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How much? Well, no more than 640kb, of course.
 
SomeGuy said:
That's why you only put your important data on the CD, and leave your 1TB of goat porn on the hard drive.


Until a single controller glitch or user error wipes out the equivalent of over 9000 CDs in one second. (And there goes all yer goat porn :p )
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Having never been introduced to that genre -- Does the goat play the "Man" or the "Woman" ??? :twisted:
 
KC9UDX said:
How much? Well, no more than 640kb, of course.
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Take, for example, a playwright such as Tennessee Williams or a prolific composer such as Irving Berlin, do you think that their entire life output is much more than 1GB? I don't mean photographically--I mean as a representation of the bare essentials.

Beyond that it's all fluff.
 
The problem comes when you buy a modern digital camera.. my Canon DSLR is configured to write both raw- and jpeg pictures to the card. That's about 26-27MB of storage for every picture. Take a few videos (it's actually a great video camera) and it's good to have a pocket full of large SDXC cards. Dump them to the PC, it runs full quickly. Buy external harddisks, store in triplicate, and soon you're buying 3-4TB disks as candy. When my mobile phone carrier force-"upgraded" my contract to a much more expensive one they told me "it's great, you get 5GB storage in the cloud included, you can store all of your photos there!". Yeah, right..

But for the period 1989-2000, or maybe up to 2003, the total of my compressed email was around 10MB. And I had a lot of it - I got hundreds a week. A 3-week holiday could leave me with a backlock of thousands. But all this email was just text, and people didn't quote insanely (Lotus Notes, with their non-threaded email program, and the extensive corporate use, has a lot to answer for. It trained a whole industry to a habit of letting every email contain every previous email in the conversation, quoted in full).

These days I seem to need 10GB instead of 10MB to hold my emails for a similar period. Or maybe 15GB. Even with deleting as much as possible. And I can't delete it all. I still need to search for stuff that is ten years or more back. Just recently somebody asked if I could remember some technical issues from 2004.. and I could, because I had enough details in my emails from then.
 
Chuck(G) said:
Take, for example, a playwright such as Tennessee Williams or a prolific composer such as Irving Berlin, do you think that their entire life output is much more than 1GB? I don't mean photographically--I mean as a representation of the bare essentials.

Beyond that it's all fluff.
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I fully agree.
 
While walking the dogs early this morning, I ran across a CD-R lying on the side of the road in a pile of gravel. It was pretty dirty and had a few scratches, but I wondered how much of it could be salvaged. The edges were someone chipped (probably from hitting the road surface), but with soap water and a little toothpaste (to remove scratches), I put it into a DVD drive and could read every bit of data on it. (turned out to be someone's practice loops--WAV and XML files)--so nothing valuable.

The brand was Memorex. People often forget that CDs and DVDs are recorded from the hub outwards, so chipped edges very often don't matter.

I think that CD-Rs are a lot more robust than people think.
 
At work we had CD-R backups which became unreadable after a year. This turned out to be enough of a problem that the hardware admin did some testing and (at the time, long ago..) settled on Kodak CD-Rs as at least better than the rest he tried.
I've not had a reason to read CD-Rs for some time so I don't know the status right now. The last time I ran into trouble was years back when I regularly had to write new Knoppix CDs because the stored one wouldn't boot anymore. Don't know the brand of CD-R used, except that it wasn't Kodak. Actually I ended up always writing a new Knoppix CD whenever I needed a live CD, I didn't even bother trying a stored one..
 
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Chuck(G) said:
While walking the dogs early this morning, I ran across a CD-R lying on the side of the road in a pile of gravel. It was pretty dirty and had a few scratches, but I wondered how much of it could be salvaged. The edges were someone chipped (probably from hitting the road surface), but with soap water and a little toothpaste (to remove scratches), I put it into a DVD drive and could read every bit of data on it. (turned out to be someone's practice loops--WAV and XML files)--so nothing valuable.

The brand was Memorex. People often forget that CDs and DVDs are recorded from the hub outwards, so chipped edges very often don't matter.

I think that CD-Rs are a lot more robust than people think.
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Not only that, but the substrate plastic is pretty tough! On some archival CD-Rs from the mid 90s, they actually used polycarbonate "sandwiches" with the recordable dye layered inside, rather than using final surface gas/ion deposition!

gwk

PS SOOO glad you didn't find any of SomeGuy's "goat porn" :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
 
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