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"TIML" wrote:
> CP/M User Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:17 pm
>> Computers don't retain their value, unless you can think of a way
>> to sell an Ol' machine to a few pennies.
> I think they DO retain their value, just not necessarily their price!
To a genuine enthusiest, yes an old computer can still retain it's value. But to one of these young bucks - it's all about graphics, sound, presentation overall. Give some kid a copy of Space Invaders after they have played the latest biz & they'd more likely throw it in the bin.
> That laptop earlier, is it made by a company thats gone all out for
> Linux now?
> Linux early adopters: Try the new ones like Xandros, Lindows, or
> even Fedora Core (1or2), they now support SO much more
> hardware and are SO much easier to install (Debian and Gentoo
> not included in the easy bit).
Having so many diferent Linux varients (and I'm guessing there's even more now than when this was posted) - could mean they all need to share compatability to at least have support for a piece of software. If it didn't imagine all the variations you'd get. But then you'd have to get down to which version of that Unix variant to have software run perfectly & smoothly.
"Unknown_K" wrote:
> The problem with older computers is that they realy only run the OS
> and software of their vintage well. While you can get newer software
> to run on older equipment the results are not exactly what you want
> to have.
> If you want to run CP/M, DOS, Amiga, Atari, or early Windows
> programs you will find the older machines are a much better value
> then trying to run an emulater on more current and much more
> expensive hardware (and varying results).
The older software doesn't even expect much from a computer, which is why you get these unusable programs on your ultra fast computers - even my ol' Pentium packs a punch for them & games are generally unplayable - which require a slowdown program.
> While Linux is constantly changing with each new release (more
> bloat , easier installs, and looking more like Windows in each
> release) you have to ask why you want to run Linux to begin with.
> With the exception of office clones the software categories have
> not expanded much from the redhat 5 days, people buy an OS
> to support their software of choice not the other way around. There
> are no killer Linux apps out period (outside of webservers) for the
> average PC user.
True, on the other hand Windows is no better & plus you continuning your support for Microsoft software. There maybe many varations to the Unix OS, but Windows isn't much better. The Internet seems to be the killer for my machine because all the time new software is downloaded onto my computer, OSes change & because Microsoft had to have this automatic update stuff, it's just no good. While it's nice to have access to it, it does come with many flaws in design. It's getting to a point where I need to update my computer, though I'll bet Microsoft will change their OS soon.
CP/M User.
> CP/M User Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:17 pm
>> Computers don't retain their value, unless you can think of a way
>> to sell an Ol' machine to a few pennies.
> I think they DO retain their value, just not necessarily their price!
To a genuine enthusiest, yes an old computer can still retain it's value. But to one of these young bucks - it's all about graphics, sound, presentation overall. Give some kid a copy of Space Invaders after they have played the latest biz & they'd more likely throw it in the bin.
> That laptop earlier, is it made by a company thats gone all out for
> Linux now?
> Linux early adopters: Try the new ones like Xandros, Lindows, or
> even Fedora Core (1or2), they now support SO much more
> hardware and are SO much easier to install (Debian and Gentoo
> not included in the easy bit).
Having so many diferent Linux varients (and I'm guessing there's even more now than when this was posted) - could mean they all need to share compatability to at least have support for a piece of software. If it didn't imagine all the variations you'd get. But then you'd have to get down to which version of that Unix variant to have software run perfectly & smoothly.
"Unknown_K" wrote:
> The problem with older computers is that they realy only run the OS
> and software of their vintage well. While you can get newer software
> to run on older equipment the results are not exactly what you want
> to have.
> If you want to run CP/M, DOS, Amiga, Atari, or early Windows
> programs you will find the older machines are a much better value
> then trying to run an emulater on more current and much more
> expensive hardware (and varying results).
The older software doesn't even expect much from a computer, which is why you get these unusable programs on your ultra fast computers - even my ol' Pentium packs a punch for them & games are generally unplayable - which require a slowdown program.
> While Linux is constantly changing with each new release (more
> bloat , easier installs, and looking more like Windows in each
> release) you have to ask why you want to run Linux to begin with.
> With the exception of office clones the software categories have
> not expanded much from the redhat 5 days, people buy an OS
> to support their software of choice not the other way around. There
> are no killer Linux apps out period (outside of webservers) for the
> average PC user.
True, on the other hand Windows is no better & plus you continuning your support for Microsoft software. There maybe many varations to the Unix OS, but Windows isn't much better. The Internet seems to be the killer for my machine because all the time new software is downloaded onto my computer, OSes change & because Microsoft had to have this automatic update stuff, it's just no good. While it's nice to have access to it, it does come with many flaws in design. It's getting to a point where I need to update my computer, though I'll bet Microsoft will change their OS soon.
CP/M User.