No kidding. I don't even know anybody who relies on a screen reader, but for crying out loud, it does not take a lot of thinking and profound insight to understand why that's important for them!Some people just don't think about such matters as accessibility for those with disabilities when designing pages, writing software, etc. And of course, every time someone comes up with a solution to a problem, someone else finds a new way to bust the web for others less fortunate.
No kidding. I don't even know anybody who relies on a screen reader, but for crying out loud, it does not take a lot of thinking and profound insight to understand why that's important for them!
A decade ago, I used to belong to a list called SurvPC which revolved around minimal computing and mostly DOS. Most of us were basically anti Windows. After I was there for a while I discovered that quite a few of the members were blind. I wonder how they're fairing now. Linux has some seemingly decent support, and MS probably has some good things too. Unfortunately most web developers are hell bent on screwing their audience.It has to do with the notion that everything has to be the latest & greatest. Whenever somebody comes up with a way to filter out some of the excess noise, there's a new version of the reader software that it doesn't apply to, and they usually update the old files automatically. Like I said tho, not sure how much things have improved in the past decade-or-so... --T
The Yahoo Group is a little on the inactive side. November of 2008 had one message (spam) and the message before that was early 2005. Actually I spoke with one of the old members a couple of years ago and found out that there is a very small mailing list remaining, but it is not really on-topic. It was a great group though. I was the first one to post on it.It's still at Yahoo Groups but a shadow of it former self. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/survpc I liked Justin Webers Computing.net forums( now part of Tom's Hardware Site) and Uncreative Labs.
A decade ago, I used to belong to a list called SurvPC which revolved around minimal computing and mostly DOS. Most of us were basically anti Windows. After I was there for a while I discovered that quite a few of the members were blind. I wonder how they're fairing now. Linux has some seemingly decent support, and MS probably has some good things too. Unfortunately most web developers are hell bent on screwing their audience.
I posted with Lynx on a DOS machine so I don't believe java is needed to post here. If it is possible to turn it off I suspect it would be possible to use some of those "in between" browsers.
This post is sent from Firefox 3.6 with NoScript activated and set to no-exceptions. If it goes through, then posting here with no javascript at all in the browser should be posible.
I'll say. I put two posts on the Uncreative Labs site some time ago and it looks like that should cover postings there for about a week. I'm glad the VCF is here! Anyway, I just now posted over there with Lynx and it worked just fine. In fact their software is perfectly workable with a text browser. They're using phpBB which is one of the best.You'll see some familiar handles there. There was a 386 only related site but that's disappeared. VCFs fills the void by a long chalk.
How's this? Warp 3.0 (non-connect) with no fixpacks, running with FreeTCP (TCPIP) and MS Lanman for OS/2 (NetBEUI).
...and Netscape 2.02 for OS/2.
I tried to get it going with OS/2 2.1, but too many Warp dependencies.
(I'm ashamed to say how long this took me).
System is an Toshiba Infinia 7230 (Intel AN430TX mobo, P1 233MHz) with ATI Rage II+ onboard video, 2GB CF card as "disk" and NE2000 NIC.