Yes, I saw that after posting, but not sure if HP:s release has the same dimensions.
Here is the card I am looking at.
Yes, I saw that after posting, but not sure if HP:s release has the same dimensions.
Lol, I was *just* about to post that exact link. Seems good to go!Looks like the VEGA Deluxe shown at [here].
Yes, I saw that after posting, but not sure if HP:s release has the same dimensions.
Here is the card I am looking at.
Yes, because an advertisement includes, "VEGA Deluxe work in any slot of any PC and most compatibles, including slot 8 of an IBM PC/XT."Lol, I was *just* about to post that exact link. Seems good to go!
There were also some original Compaq portable cards that were too tall for a 5150/5160 case. The async card comes to mind.Cards for the IBM AT can go about half an inch higher.
Belt sander.I don't agree. A lot of the cards I've looked at on eBay seems to be right in that area where they could either be just low enough or just slightly too tall to fit.
Of course, assuming that the HP branded card is physically identical to the VEGA Deluxe, and from the photos, it certainly appears that way to me.Yes, because an advertisement includes, "VEGA Deluxe work in any slot of any PC and most compatibles, including slot 8 of an IBM PC/XT."
Compaq always did their own thing. They didn't make cards to put into IBM PC/XT/AT compatibles; they made them to fit into their own machines.There were also some original Compaq portable cards that were too tall for a 5150/5160 case. The async card comes to mind.
No one selling generic cards for the PC/XT/AT made them in a way that would not allow the cards to fit in a 5150/60/70 case, as that would have been stupid.
Im late to the party.. But what EGA card WOULDN'T fit in a 5160 case?!
Indeed, A problem with early cards designed for an AT case, They were too tall to fit in a 5162, Hence too tall for a 5160 as the 5162 / 5160 Cases are the same dimensions. Too tall for the 5150 as well.
According to the dimensions in the IBM 5160 technical reference (an enhanced version of which is here) it's permissible for an IBM XT expansion card to project about 6mm, or a quarter inch, over the top of the mounting bracket tab. Cards for the IBM AT can go about half an inch higher.
I personally have never seen an *ISA* EGA or VGA card that's too tall for an XT case. The reason I put *ISA* in that sentence is I have vague memories of EISA video cards existing that are too tall. (But I cannot confirm first-hand because I never owned an EISA machine.) I do remember running into the occasional card that really pushed the clearance limit in an XT, to the point that if your case top were slightly dented or your motherboard wasn't sitting exactly right on the standoffs the PCB could scrape on the lid, but *technically* I think those cards were at least intended to fit. Because the 5162 and other "Baby AT" machines existed and were for a time pretty popular "full-height" cards are actually pretty rare...
... But that said... hrm. It would be really nice if the photo of that card were straight on instead of that extreme angle because, you're right, that sure looks like it could be more than a quarter of an inch over the top of the tab, but it could just be perspective playing tricks with us. For OEM cards bets can definitely be off. (For instance, the CGA cards used in some Compaq portables are extra tall...)
This is the I/O card I mentioned in the first post of this thread. It sticks up almost an inch above the bracket.
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So either this statement is incorrect, or many ISA card manufacturers were stupid.
As I've stated in this thread: Quite a few - if not most - of the EGA cards that I've found for sale on eBay seems to be in the precise range where they very well could be too tall, judging by the images provided. Images that can be tricky to interpret, depending on the perspectives/angles used.Yeah fair enough. But what EGA cards have shown to be built with these dimensions? Apples and oranges.
So either this statement is incorrect, or many ISA card manufacturers were stupid.
As I've stated in this thread: Quite a few - if not most - of the EGA cards that I've found for sale on eBay seems to be in the precise range where they very well could be too tall.
Those original Compaq VDU cards won’t even fit their own deskpro. Later versions of the card are shorter so that they fit both the portable and the deskpro. And the brackets are different, but I have a feeling those are interchangeable.There were also some original Compaq portable cards that were too tall for a 5150/5160 case. The async card comes to mind.
I think I had this one in my turbo XT clone (came from the store with it). This is what I think of when I think of "clone EGA card" from that time. XTs and XT-286 were extremely common and exactly the machines that would need an upgrade to EGA... That said, I can understand not wanting to take any chances. Oughta be possible to eyeball or even measure a photo from eBay though.