Chuck(G)
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I don't use foil. I just use white stick-on paper I get from the stationary store.
I use 5.25" floppy write-protect tabs. Perfect size; some are even foil-backed; many are colored black.
I don't use foil. I just use white stick-on paper I get from the stationary store.
I'm still trying to picture this. I thought that rot. speed has a 1% tolerance, typically. I can't see how an oxidation layer a few microns thick translates to enough to upset to the speed to exceed the 1% tolerance, unless there's something else marginal, like the bearings are worn, spindle warped, something like that.
I could, however see it if the belt were glazed, or at least old, and there was irregular oxidation, as this would change belt "slippage"
I'm not trying to quibble, just trying to understand.
I'm still trying to picture this. I thought that rot. speed has a 1% tolerance, typically. I can't see how an oxidation layer a few microns thick translates to enough to upset to the speed to exceed the 1% tolerance, unless there's something else marginal, like the bearings are worn, spindle warped, something like that.
I could, however see it if the belt were glazed, or at least old, and there was irregular oxidation, as this would change belt "slippage"
I'm not trying to quibble, just trying to understand.
patscc
It does. I guess I've been lucky thus not to have run into that, but it's definately something I'll keep in mind. Thanks for the explanation.Dwight Elvey said...supprise you how thick old oxides can get and how uneven
I've seen lumpy belts and gunk on the motors pulley and the
disk seems to work while the smallest lumps on the flywheel cause
problems.
This is just my experience, I don't know what the physics of it
is.
Dwight
Was "drive alignment" meant to be "radial head alignment" ?A question. There seems to be a consensus that drive alignment and high track errors are unrelated.Tez
Was "drive alignment" meant to be "radial head alignment" ?
A question. There seems to be a consensus that drive alignment and high track errors are unrelated. However if the alignment was WAY, WAY out, could this lead to format/verify errors on the high tracks?
Does your format program write the whole disk then verify it? Or does it write and verify each track without moving the head? If the former, you could have an issue with the positioner.
Do the errors consistently crop on on just one side or both?
Do errors begin to crop up after writing/formatting multiple times or just re-reading the same area?
So, it's still a mystery. Here is an observation and a question.
There seems to be a pattern. After formatting a disk after a long period of inactivity (with the machine swiched off for longer than 30 mins or so), the format seems to either work, or comes up with very few errors (maybe just one or two). However, if a re-format is done immediatley after, on a new disk or the same one, many errors appear?? It's the same for subsequest formats. That first format after a (longish) rest however, is sometimes ok. It seems to be a consistent pattern.
Does this mean anything to anyone? I have a feeling it is a clue. Something warming up and expanding perhaps?
Have you checked the Track stepper motor linkage? A prime suspect are the two screws (Philips head) fastening the steel band that links the stepper motor to the head. These can come loose & cause the head to position inconsistently.
Philip
Yes, checked that Philip. They are a tight as a ***'* **** .
Tez
***'* ****??? Must be a down-underism...
--T
Only one I ever heard round here is tight as ****'s *******.
--T