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Looking for ICT WinPLACE PLD software for PEEL 18CV8...

george

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Does anybody have this ancient free software? I need to compile some equations with it for PEEL 18CV8 PLD. Thank you.
 

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You might have better luck using PLDASM--I think it was part of PLDShell. That used to be freely available from Intel, but I think it was sold to Altera. Regardless, I suspect there are some copies wandering around the web.
 

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Does anybody have this ancient free software? I need to compile some equations with it for PEEL 18CV8 PLD. Thank you.

I think ABEL and some versions of CUPL could handle PEEL devices. The 18CV8 was a very advanced device but few applications used all its capabilities. Perhaps you could try to see if your equations will assemble properly with a GAL16V8 or PAL16V8? Can you post an example equation?
 

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I think ABEL and some versions of CUPL could handle PEEL devices. The 18CV8 was a very advanced device but few applications used all its capabilities. Perhaps you could try to see if your equations will assemble properly with a GAL16V8 or PAL16V8? Can you post an example equation?

Of course, the equations assemble properly. I just have several PEEL devices plus I know local supply so I want to use PEEL also. WinCUPL version I have does not have in its device library support for PEEL ;(
 

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I don't know if this will help, but SMS PLDASM claims to support the 18CV8. So perhaps you have a way of going from logic equations to a JEDEC fusemap.

I share your frustration in finding support for old programmable devices. The various logic lines have been passed around so much that a lot of information and tools are simply unobtanium.

Any chance of using a plain old GAL in place of the 18CV8?
 

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I don't know if this will help, but SMS PLDASM claims to support the 18CV8. So perhaps you have a way of going from logic equations to a JEDEC fusemap.

I share your frustration in finding support for old programmable devices. The various logic lines have been passed around so much that a lot of information and tools are simply unobtanium.

Any chance of using a plain old GAL in place of the 18CV8?

Yes, I am already using GALs successfully. Just wanted to utilize PEELs...And to gain some additional knowledge on their IDE.

Added: Chuck, you're great as usual. The german assembler you pointed out of nowhere in your link worked perfectly. I will pay more attention to it to understand what I actually used ;) Thank you
 
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PEELs use a different output macrocell than do GALs. It's more flexible, but obviously requires different programming. My Xeltek Superpro can handle them, but I think they're sort of a dead-end, evolutionary speaking. I think I've got a batch of 16CV8 and 22CV10s that I picked up cheap. But I'd never design for something that works only with a PEEL device--that would be instant obsolescence.

See here for a brief explanation.
 

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Actually I am using GALs and PEELs to replace a simple 16L8 logic so both types are suitable as long as they are available. Just needed a proper compiler for PEELs.
 
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Does anybody have this ancient free software? I need to compile some equations with it for PEEL 18CV8 PLD. Thank you.

Depending on how bold you are, you can download a zip folder called WinPlace 232-beta from this Russian sounding webpage. I ran a Norton scan successfully on the zip folder but who knows. There is also a link to the WinPLACE manual. Norton gave the page a green 'Site is Safe' light.

http://www.control.aau.dk/~jan/undervisning/Logiske_Digitale_Kredslob-2009/
 

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Depending on how bold you are, you can download a zip folder called WinPlace 232-beta from this Russian sounding webpage. I ran a Norton scan successfully on the zip folder but who knows. There is also a link to the WinPLACE manual. Norton gave the page a green 'Site is Safe' light.

http://www.control.aau.dk/~jan/undervisning/Logiske_Digitale_Kredslob-2009/
The site is danish, and thank you. I have already solved my problem with the small dos sms assembler that Chuck pointed to, but I've also donwnloaded this one and will check it some day.
 

ray_rmd

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George,
Granted this reply follows your query by 2 years, but ... I have PLACE software diskette and user manual. Version 2.71 I think, from 1995. I'm not sure whether it is intended for DOS or wWndows, probably win. I can send you a .7z of the 3.5 " diskette, look it over. If you want the manual you will have to recompense for shipping. The manual is actually a complete databook of ICT programmable devices, and extension documentation (about 45% of the content of the databook) of the PLACE program.

regards,
Ray Berry
 

george

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Thank you. It would be great to have the software. Others might be interested, too...
 
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