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Why buying any modern Apple Product is just a terrible idea.

krebizfan said:
I am glad that some modern devices are including the extra few cents of components to run off the charger without needing the battery to mediate issues, Solves the frequent discharge/recharge cycles that burn through a battery's lifespan.
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That helps, but what helps even more, for devices with lithium battries, is being able to configure the device to stay closer to 50% battery charge most of the time. With Linux I can configure my ThinkPads to stop charging at 80% (or wherever I like), and I ask it to charge to 100% only when I know I'm going to need the extra capacity.

It took me a while to understand that my phones' and tablets' batteries were degrading badly within a couple of years mainly because I was keeping them on the charger most of the time, so they spent most of their time at 100%.
 
You guys have got me thinking...

I use a 2018 iPad Pro pretty much exclusively for watching Netflix. It just got an OS update today but next year it will probably go out of support. I wonder how long Netflix will go before their app requires a new version of iOS and old versions won't work with the service anymore.

In playing around with an iPhone 5 SE every now and again, it still works, and will download the last supported version of apps from the app store, but often those old versions will not work anymore with their respective services.

So it is a combination of fault with both Apple and 3rd party developers.

It'd be a horrible waste if that iPad Pro became junk well before its useful life is over. I agree with that. I don't think Android devices are much better about it though. It's kind of the world we live in I guess. Even Linux has been dropping support for old architectures and devices at breakneck speed. Very wasteful and short-sighted.
 
VERAULT said:
If the argument is new stuff is cheap and breaks easily.. Then yes I agree completely. I was just saying laptops in general are not as throw away as phones and tablets are. You can still buy a good laptop, your just not going to get it at bestbuy.
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Welp, this time around I went with a Lenovo Legend and bought the extended warranty (48 mos) for $128.. If it goes down, I'm allowed to take to any authorized service center that I choose and that would be my MicroCenter.
 
Chuck(G) said:
Seems to be an increasing trend. I note that my Moto-G phone has no visible dividing line on the case, such that the back could be removed to replace the battery. I guess I now must treat mobile phones as consumables.
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They had to schlopp it together somehow.
 
thisisamigaspeaking said:
Linux has been dropping support for old architectures and devices at breakneck speed. Very wasteful and short-sighted.
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That is absoluyely true. I was trying to setup a gaming pc with linux with a videocard that was by no means new but still good enough for a bunch of games and it had zero support.id imagine linux is on its way to be behaving like everyone else. Real shame.
 
There is still some support for older kit in Linux even if not directly supported in the Kernel. But it does take a little more "geekiness" to get some stuff to work and probably will require you to compile your own kernel. But Linux is still more useful than iOS, Android, or Windows 8 on old equipment. And some distros lean toward supporting old computers even if the main Linux kernel and mainstream/popular distros don't. Most stuff can be handled in 64-bit Linux. But the really old stuff, like 32-bit machines, have been left behind in most mainstream Linux distros. But there is still a lot of build-it-yourself stuff available and Debian even still supports a lot of 32-bit binaries.

To Chucks point up the thread, this is not going to be something regular folks will use. But at least the hardware doesn't have to be binned if it gets to the right geek.

Seaken
 
Well at least with linux, it has no drm or tied to the hardware like other OS. So usually if it worked in the past with linux, it will still work, at least a starting point to revive a machine. And the source code is essentially all available to you to make improvements. So all you really need to do is track down the last version that works. Much more freedom :)
 
With Linux---at least with the mainline distros like Debian, there are online archives for practically the whole series.
But yes, progress and bloat moves on and 64 bit architecture seems to be the absolute minimum for modern membership.
 
I had a thought. I was installing an SMB file browser on my phone so I can browse my file shares and a thought occured to me. If I could install the same thing on my old Ipad that would give it more years of use.

So searching for old IOS stuff is not easy. Can someone tell me an old smb equipped file browser application that will install onto IOS 9.3.6? Possibly a direct download link?
 
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VERAULT said:
I had a thought. I was installing an SMB file browser on my phone so I can browse my file shares and a thought occured to me. If I could install the same thing on my old Ipad that would give it more years of use.
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You want to access the files or just see the directory? iOS didn't really support file access for the user until more recently.

VERAULT said:
So searching for old IOS stuff is not easy. Can someone tell me an old smb equipped file browser application that will install onto IOS 9.3.6? Possibly a direct download link?
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It's not easy or even always possible to sideload apps on iOS... If you jailbreak it, you can have a Unix environment and do whatever you want with it.

I can anticipate "that's why it's garbage" being the response here but these are pretty well known limitations of iOS going back years.
 
thisisamigaspeaking said:
You want to access the files or just see the directory? iOS didn't really support file access for the user until more recently.
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I want to be able to access my windows shares.


Still makes it garbage if this isnt possible. Android could do it. But I dont want to rehash an old argument. Im just looking to get some functionality.
 
From the Google AI summary:

To access Windows file shares from your iOS device, open the Files app, tap the three-dot menu, select "Connect to Server", and enter the server name (IP address or computer name) and credentials.
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You can try to see if that works, I don't know what version of iOS you're running. The Files app is a stock iOS app and is not "new" but it's only been the past couple releases, so I don't know if you have it.
 
Please read Post #129.......... otherwise your just spinning your wheels.
 
Verault, you will need to jailbreak the iPad to access the filesystem. The Files app the garbage Google AI was talking about was introduced in iOS 10, so it will not be possible on your iPad as you've already figured out. Not sure about windows network shares specifically, but Filza File Manager will let you access anything in your filesystem once you've jailbroken.
Unfortunately, the only jailbreak for iOS 9.3.5/6 on your device is "semi-untethered", meaning it won't persist across reboots. Instead, you have to re-run an app each time you reboot - the app must be sideloaded, and Apple's limitations make it so you have to re-sideload the app every 7 days, so it's a bit annoying. If you downgrade your iPad to iOS 8.4.1, which is possible, you can run a fully untethered jailbreak that will not have this limitation.
 
3lectr1c said:
Verault, you will need to jailbreak the iPad to access the filesystem. The Files app the garbage Google AI was talking about was introduced in iOS 10, so it will not be possible on your iPad as you've already figured out. Not sure about windows network shares specifically, but Filza File Manager will let you access anything in your filesystem once you've jailbroken.
Unfortunately, the only jailbreak for iOS 9.3.5/6 on your device is "semi-untethered", meaning it won't persist across reboots. Instead, you have to re-run an app each time you reboot - the app must be sideloaded, and Apple's limitations make it so you have to re-sideload the app every 7 days, so it's a bit annoying. If you downgrade your iPad to iOS 8.4.1, which is possible, you can run a fully untethered jailbreak that will not have this limitation.
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Im not trying to access the ipads files system... I want to access my network file shares from the ipad.


All this is covered in the thread earlier but just to catch new folks up to speed. Old Ipad deprecated way before its time. My thought was since It cant be updated can I at least use it as a media browser? Browse media from my network to play on it. To do so I would need an SMB file browser.
 

Obtain access to a shared network file share via SMB on a iOS device. – OIT Knowledge Base

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Looks like they are many downloadable apps that will let you do that - so you shouldn't need to jailbreak, in theory. The difficult part is going to be finding one that's still compatible with iOS 9.

iOS will let you download the "last compatible version" of an app if you've already purchased it. It's likely that none of these apps will be compatible with iOS 9 on the latest version, so you will probably have to download them on a newer iOS device (so they appear in your purchases), and then try to download them on the iPad. One of them should hopefully have a version compatible with iOS 9, then you should be able to connect to your file share.
 
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