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NathanAllan

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A current project I'm workign on is getting a p133 toshiba laptop and loading win2k on it. Not vintage, but the laptop is. According to the tearchers that is the minimum proc that w2k can run. Then once I get the os installed I'll swap the hdd with my p75 and show them that it'll run on it, if it will which I'm pretty sure it will. Just gotta get some parts. Then I'll go wireless (they're putting in wireless internet). Then I'll do my schoolwork using office 95, heh heh. Why is this a show-off? Cause most of the people there are under the inpression that you need a new computer, cutting edge stuff to do any kind of work. Then I'll brag :lol: and show them that you DON'T have to get a new school loan to get a decent comuter. I'm all for new technology but don't like it crammed down my throat.
 
In theory this might work. However, I hope you have some time because it will be a slow dog. You might get it booted before school ends in June :lol:

Also, IIRC, 2000 doesn't like major hardware changes. I've tried swapping a mainboard on 2000 and it crashed when it found the new hardware on bootup. Be prepared for that. I loaded 95 on a 486 with 4meg trying to do the same thing you are. It worked but what a dog it was. Good luck.
 
Nathan; the two computers have to be almost identical in terms of chipset and other motherboard issues to make it run on a different computer. It may be possible to tweak an existing installation of Windows to run on a different computer than it was installed on, but it is very likely that W2K will crash hard when you boot it on the P75; not because it is too weak but because the OS had made certain assumptions about the hardware.

If you can upgrade your P75 with a P133 or better processor, install the OS and then downgrade the CPU again, it may be more likely to work.
 
Thanks for the verification Carlsson, I thought that was the case. Actually, I have done this with XP (Moved my HD from my old Athlon 1133 to my P4 2.8) and it worked right.

I would find a Pentium board that works with a P75 and P133. Actually, install might go faster if you find a P233MMX board and drop a P75 into that.
 
Maybe "drivers" for more types of chipsets are installed in the most recent Windows versions, and better auto detection? A number of years ago I attempted the trick of installing on one computer and swap HDD with another. It was almost guaranteed blue screen or worse.
 
I bet it will work

I bet it will work

I'll bet that it will work but it will go nuts with "new hardware found" when you boot it.

My experience has been the Win2k has been pretty good about changing hardware. Not BeOS good, not even Linux good but lighyears beyond Win9x.

but I guess we'll hear the final result from you later. ;)
 
I expect the hardware detect to go crazy, yeah. I've done this with win98 twice with no long-lasting efects so I'm pretty confident about drooping the drive onto the p75. It's a laptop and the proc is integrated and can't be removed. I wish! The two laptops are Satellite 100CS and Satellite Pro 460CDT. To look at them one only has slightly different details (the 460 has small speakers, jacks in front and a slightly larger screen and a few other little differences). The ports and hardware appear to all swap between them. Battery, ram, dock, fdd. The 100 has a hardwired fdd while the 460 has a removable one and can swap with a cd-rom. Both have a ram limit of 40mb IIRC. I don't think the bios flash changes that.

But I'll definitely let everyone know how it works out when I get it done and all the parts come in.

Nathan
 
I've had Windows 2000 running on a P100 before, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on a P75.

It actually doesn't run too badly, just as long as you have a reasonable amount of memory.

I'd be more interested to see if you can get it working on a 486DX ;)
 
vq304 said:
I've had Windows 2000 running on a P100 before, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on a P75.

It actually doesn't run too badly, just as long as you have a reasonable amount of memory.

I'd be more interested to see if you can get it working on a 486DX ;)
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Been there, done that! I took a Windows 2000 Professional equipped 3GB Hard Disk and stuck it into a 486 DX5/133 (the AMD 5x86 in marketing terms) and it did'nt work too bad at all. I've also run NT 4.0 on 486 DX2/66 hardware before as well. As long as you have plenty of memory and disk space, a 486 is not out of the question up to 2000 Professional. It's just Microsoft won't give you support (like it would be needed with me anyway).
 
I'm still waiting for the laptop to get in but I had to post this.

At school, we do projects and reports and stuff and we are asked to make diagrams. Or we throw in diagrams to shorten the explanation. They're "encouraging" students to use Visio, some M$ thing for graphics. I use Paint. I get extra credit for my diagrams and pictures that I make. I have educated a few students already about how to use paint and the simplicity of it compared to visio and photoshop and whatever else. The needs aren't many in these classes. Only that you show what you have learned. Is the idea of "elegance in simplicity" a dead idea? Am I missing something???
 
Re: Showing off at school

"NathanAllan" wrote:

> Why is this a show-off? Cause most of the people there are under the
> inpression that you need a new computer, cutting edge stuff to do any
> kind of work. Then I'll brag lol and show them that you DON'T have to
> get a new school loan to get a decent comuter. I'm all for new
> technology but don't like it crammed down my throat.

This is a strange sence of mentallity people must have if they think you
-need- a fast computer just to do some school work. I had to do some of my school work on an XT! Nobody complained or anything & here we are now & people think a Pentium 4 is required to do the job properly.

Newsflash - I wrote a Powerpoint Presentation page which was terribly slow on one of the schools 1.8GHz machines, I've tested it on a 2.8Ghz machine which is slightly better, but I figure machines will have to be 3 times the speed before they perform this at the speed it needs to be. Not that I'm too worried, I'm sure if it were in DOS machines won't need to be 3 times faster! But since it was some clown which came up with the idea of keeping it all Windows...

CP/M User.
 
Shoot, I used to show off like that all the time in high school. Twas only two weeks before I got all the students huddled round' the 486 watching me play monkey island, instead of trying to hide the fact that they were downloading porn onto the schools brand new IBM NetVista PC-330 systems.

I still use a 286 for printing stuff out of Wordperfect 5.1 with a dot matrix. Why a Dot Matrix and a 286 with WP51....b/c, then I can save on how many ink cartridges I have to buy for the PIII each year, I've cut it down to about $60 a year on my HP, at most.
 
I did my home work on a Zenith Master Sport 286 with no hard drive. I had to run it off DOS disks and a Professional Write Disk. Lets see someone top that one...

-Vlad

(I only did that once, After that I had 2 "modern" laptops, which were and AST something or other and an IBM Thinkpad 380ED)

EDIT
I did use a Older Toshiba 486 running Windows 3.1 once as well.
 
vlad said:
I did my home work on a Zenith Master Sport 286 with no hard drive. I had to run it off DOS disks and a Professional Write Disk. Lets see someone top that one...
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I did my papers on a Tandy 1000TL (286XT) all through college and printed them on a dot matrix printer. Had to use endnotes since my editor couldn't do footnotes, but my professors were all OK with that :) .
 
Nope, I got you topped.....My 9th grade High Schoolwork rig was this

Tandy 1000 SX
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8088 running at 4.77 MHz most the time because I could not work the keystrokes to change speeds properly (till I read the manual a year later)

384K RAM, till 2 years later where I spent FOURTY DOLLARS from an outdated Radio Shack catalog to upgrade to 640K and gain nothing but the playing of Ultima VI: The FAlse prophet at "pacemaker with bad duracell battery" experience. At least I had the cool 3 Channel DAC sound and 16 color graphics though.

No HARD DISK

2 360K Floppies, with me using the last sets of 360K diskettes availilble on the shelf of Wal-Mart (yes, they STILL sold 360K's in 1997 for god knows whatever reason). And I had to make backups of my other 15 year old diskettes that came with the computer

I used Tandy Deskmate II for all my writing becuase my Professional Write diskette went bad after a week of having the computer. I had to print everything out of a noisy, slow Tandy DMP-12 Dot Matrix printer that shreiked like a banshee and was a cause of me having to bum fanfold paper off my mom's job at the hospital because Wal-Mart nor any other place still carried fanfold paper in 1997 (go figure, they have 360K Diskettes, but no Fanfold!). I finally dumped that printer for an Epson Dot Matrix a year later, which worked much better than that crappy tandy printer, but was still rather slow compared to the ink jet printers my friends in school had on their grand spankin' new Pentium II's running Windows 98 with full 56K internet via AOL 4.0. Either way, I have fond memories of being probably the last person in Opelika High School to use a Tandy 1000 SX for my homework.
 
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